I
can really recommend this interview with Paul Craig Roberts. While
I'm far less than sure about the interviewer he does give a free hand
to Roberts to expound his views.
This
is the voice of an Elder who is warning a younger generation.
Ignore
at your own peril.
What all of these people have in common is they are old enough to have a historical perspective.
What all of these people have in common is they are old enough to have a historical perspective.
World
War 3 Russia vs Ukraine and Europe Simulation
Here
is another interview, with previous presidential candidate Lyndon
LaRouche, who does not seem to understand that the fascist state is
not going to impach Obama for this
‘Obama
could trigger World War III’
To
watch the video GO
HERE
15
March, 2014
Press
TV has interviewed Lyndon LaRouche, former US presidential candidate
and founder of the Executive Intelligence Review from Virginia, to
discuss tensions in Washington and Moscow relations over the
political crisis in Ukraine.
What
follows is only an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press
TV: Well,
that is a circumstance that has been met, even though John Kerry says
it is not threat, I do not know what else you can make of it? He has
said that it is going to come at a great cost for Russia.
Tell
us what types of measures they are going to take in order to show
Russia that what it is doing is wrong?
You
can take your shot, either militarily sanctions, economically, what
have you.
LaRouche: Well,
I would say that probably that Putin will not concede to these
demands of the United States and Putin has very strong grounds for
saying so.
First
of all presidency of Ukraine is not clear. The President of the
United States has insisted that it is clear but it is not clear. The
incumbent, the actual president of Ukraine is suspended in terms of
his authority but no authorized replacement for him has yet been
designated.
So
the idea that the Crimea of course is a territory which is right
close to Russia since Catherine the Great; so it is an integral part
of the Russian picture and there are complications there but my guess
is certainly that there are two things going on here. One thing is
that, Yes, the president of the United States currently is pushing
this thing. He is actually pushing close to the threshold of a
thermonuclear war. Now, that does not mean that it is going to
happen.
Right
now president of the United States is in deep trouble back at home,
he is virtually in the --danger-- of impeachment at this time.
Also
I know that the government of the United States in general does not
want a thermonuclear war with anyone, at this time; and therefore the
president of the United States is acting as a wild man on his own. He
has attempted to push something through and he has been rejected by
the government.
He
is also in a big trouble with the Senate of the United States who is
just actually dealing with what I would call impeachable offenses.
Well,
he may not be the president of the United States but the United
States does not want a thermonuclear war, they are not willing go
with a thermonuclear war over anything of this type.
The
president of the United States, backed by the British queen, yes is
committed to that policy and at all costs; but the people in the
United States and the officials in the United States do not agree
with that policy; they do not agree with a thermonuclear war and then
the attempt to move in on Russia would mean a thermonuclear war and I
do not think that the world wants that.
Press
TV: Lyndon
LaRouche when you talk about the doomsday scenario of this
thermonuclear war, lets us bring the tone down, I guess in terms of a
military confrontation, where that to happen; I am looking at sudden
developments, tell us how close we are to it?
The
US surveillance drone to have been intercepted above the Ukrainian
region of Crimea, this just came out in the past hour; a Russian
state arms and technology group announced that; and of course the
NATO exercises taking place on the border of Ukraine, along with the
Russian military exercises.
I
mean what kind of signals are these types of military exercises
sending from one side to the other and back?
LaRouche: It
is not a military situation in Crimea. That is a part of the whole
scenario. The scenario is World War III, a thermonuclear World War
III, today, tomorrow, next week and beyond.
As
long as this president remains in power in the United States, we are
virtually certain that the United States will be asked to deploy a
thermonuclear attack on Russia. That is certain right now.
The
only thing that will stop that, is the probable impeachment of the
president of the United States. President of the United States is
acting beyond his authority in going for general warfare.
The
Senate of the United States is now poised in readiness to impeach the
president of the United States. The active impeach could come within
hours or longer. I do not know which, but it is there.
Press
TV: Well,
Lyndon LaRouche let us make some deductions regarding what may
trigger, based on some of the scenarios that you painted there, a
reaction from either the US or its western partners.
John
Kerry in his press conference said that if Russia makes any moves
into Ukraine that is, actually, going to violate Ukraine’s
sovereignty, that he will see a severe reaction, this will be beyond
Crimea.
Do
you think that there is a chance that Russia is thinking or mulling
over moving into the boundaries beyond Crimea into Ukraine, that
perhaps may bring about some type of response militarily speaking?
LaRouche: Much
of what is coming out as propaganda in the name of Britain and the
US, is completely false and the Germans do not want to get into a war
of this type. Germany does not insist upon it...
In
the United States the imminent charges against Obama for crimes
committed and these are high crimes.
That
is the language of impeachment and in the United States impeachment
can come down fast. What it will mean is not the president is thrown
out of office, it would mean he is suspended from his functions
because first of all he is out of step of reality, he is acting as
the president alone, he is not consulting the Congress, he is putting
through wars at decrees, personal decrees, when the constitution
forbids it.
These
are these kinds of circumstances if a president is going to war under
conditions which he is forbidden to do; his impeachment action can
become immediate and I will hope it will because he is no good, he is
a danger for the United States.
You
will find out throughout Europe, in those countries, Germany
and to some degree France, there is no will for this. The argument of
the Polish for this thing is not true in terms of many Pols who have
quite a different position, because they do know that the so-called
Ukrainian government, which is not Ukrainian government, it is a
fascist regime; it is based on a Hitler organization, the Hitler
Nazis; and they, actually --asked-- Germany and Britain for
protection instead of prosecuting for the crimes they have committed.
So
there is no popularity, there is fear and the people are becoming
intimidated by fear. What they point is that the rage is building up
and the rage I the United States, you know, almost 80 percent of the
population of the United States do not want this president around
them.
But
if the Senate, House as a body, which is now a symbol on this
question, gets impeachment offenses on this president, they have made
them definite that way but they could be very close to it because
what he has done is highly impeachable and if he is doing it on the
verge of the threat of going to a war, then his war power has to be
suspended.
So
I would say that a war could happen but it would be a thermonuclear
World War, not a European war, not a NATO war. Any war that occurs
now will be a thermonuclear war and it will be global, it will not be
regional.
Press
TV: Well,
Lyndon LaRouche I am guessing the US and its Western partners have
tried their best to try to see how they can maneuver Putin out of
this Crimea referendum and it has not worked. So I want to ask you,
do you think as a consequence , there may be a fallout now between
the US and Russia in particular in other areas? We could talk about
Syria Iran, the Start II Agreements of which already a source in the
Russian Defense Ministry has said that they are going to discontinue
US inspections of these nuclear missile forces, citing lack of trust.
Do
you think it is going to affect these areas or other areas that you
may suggest here?
LaRouche: One
big factor here in the whole strategic picture. It goes together with
the transatlantic community’s financial state. The United States
and the Wall Street, are hopelessly bankrupt, they are about to be
plunged into bankruptcy.
The
British interests themselves who participate in the same thing as
Wall Street, in fact Wall Street and this British group are the same
thing; they are an international group, the so-called British and
Anglo-American group and that is called Wall Street.
Now,
Wall Street has taken over and destroyed the United States pretty
much during the past two presidencies, those of Bush and now Obama.
So
the crisis in the United States is several-fold, it is the misery
imposed on the people which is insufferable. It is all about the fact
that Wall Street is about to go bankrupt because it has gone into a
bail-in mode, as has the British system.
The
bail-in mode is like an elevator on the 70th floor going down without
a cable on it to the bottom floor and probably below the bottom floor
and therefore we are in a momentary crisis which is caused by this
international financial crisis which hits hardest in transatlantic
community and one of the ways of dealing with this is trying to go to
war and the trigger of war is –pushed- now by the breakdown crisis
of the entire British and US economies.
We
are in a bail-in collapse that is the entire inflation of bailout,
which has gone on since the Bush family came into the presidency
again, Dick Cheney, not Bush. Dick Cheney was just a stooge; Bush was
the real president (sic). So the Cheney president had started all
this stuff.
The
9/11 is a key part of this and that is about to explode. That is 9/11
the Americans were killed by Saudi and British... people I know that.
And this thing is exploding together with this issue of Obama’s
policies now but the key thing here is that system is bankrupt; it is
a bail-in system. As I said, it is like it is like an elevator on the
70th floor going down below the subfloor and when that happens, the
entire system goes into a bankruptcy crisis.
Here
is a heated exchange between CNN's Christiane Amanpour and Prof,
Stephen Cohen
Russia/
Ukraine debate sparks fiery exchange
Russia-Ukraine
debate sparks fiery exchange Russia-Ukraine debate sparks fiery
exchange Russia-Ukraine debate sparks fiery exchange CNN's Christiane
Amanpour.
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