Oleg
Tsarev warns of US preparations for civil war in Ukraine
This
speech was made by representative Oleg Tsarev to the Ukrainian Rada
in November, 2013
The description says the speech was made one year before - in fact it was made several months before the coup.
The description says the speech was made one year before - in fact it was made several months before the coup.
Ukrainian Deputy: US to stage a civil war in Ukraine! This was 20.11.2013!! One the BEFORE Maidan
–––––TRANSCRIPT–––––
Deputy
Oleg Tsarov has the word
Honourable
Colleagues
Honourable
Vladimir Vasiljevitch
In
my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people…
…activists
of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me…
…providing
clear evidence…
…that
within our territory…
…with
support and direct participation
…of
the US Embassy in Kiev…
…the
"TechCamp" project is realised…
…under
which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.
The
"TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information
warfare…
…and
the discrediting of state institutions using modern media…
…potential
revolutionaries…
…for
organising protests…
… and
the toppling of the State Order.
The
project is currently overseen and under the responsibility…
…of
the US ambassador to Ukraine…
…Geoffrey
R. Pyatt.
After
the conversation with the organisation "Volya“…
… I
have learned…
…that
they succeeded to access Facilities in the project "TechCamp“…
…disguising
as a team of IT specialists.
To
their surprise, briefings on peculiarities of modern media were held.
American
instructors explained how social networks and Internet technologies…
…can
be used for targeted manipulation of public opinion…
…as
well as to activate protest potential…
…to
provoke violent unrest on the territory of Ukraine…
…Radicalisation
of the population and triggering of infighting.
American
instructors show examples of successful use of social networks…
…used
to organise protests
…in
Egypt, Tunisia and Libya.
"TechCamp"
representatives currently hold conferences throughout Ukraine.
A
total of five events have been held so far.
About
300 people were trained as operatives, which are now active
throughout Ukraine.
The
last conference "TechCamp" took place on 14 and 15 November
2013…
…in
the Heart of Kiev on the territory of the US Embassy!
You
tell me which country in the world would allow…
…a
NGO to operate out of the US Embassy?
This
is disrespectful to the Ukrainian government, and against the
Ukrainian People!
I
appeal to the Constitutional Authorities of Ukraine with the
following question:
Is
it conceivable that representatives of the US Embassy…
…which
organise the "TechCamp" Conferences…
…misuse
their diplomatic mission?
–– Let
him speak ––
Carry
On
UN
Resolution of 21 December 1965 regulates…
…inadmissibility
of interference in the internal affairs of a state…
…to
protect its independence and its sovereignty…
…in
accordance with paragraphs one, two and five.
I
ask you to consider this as an official beseech…
…to
pursue an investigation of this case
Thank
You!
Divisions
within the Kiev Regime. Will President Poroshenko Be Overthrown?
Interview
with the Chairman of Novorossyia Parliament Oleg Tsarev
By
Ivan Volkov
Translated
from Russian by J.Hawk
Arseniy
Yatsenyuk already gave orders to conduct an information campaign
against the Ukrainian president. Arsen Avakov is collecting
compromising information on Poroshenko. A Ridus Exclusive.'
Chairman
of Novorossia Parliament Oleg Tsarev
gave an exclusive interview to Ridus. He said why the Kiev US embassy
puppetmasters, together with Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, and the odious
oligarch Kolomoysky who is always chasing dollars, want to see
Poroshenko overthrown with every fiber of their beings.
Question:
Oleg Anatolyevich, you said that the overseas patrons of Poroshenko
are preparing his overthrow. How did he fail to satisfy the US
president?
There
are three groups working on Ukraine in the US embassy. And even
though they are competing for influence over policy, just as local
elites compete for US approval, they are in agreement that Poroshenko
needs to be replaced.
First
of all, he has good relations with the Russian ambassador Zurabov and
a profitable business in Lipetsk. There are also other factors which
I don’t wish to describe so as not to complicate the situation
further.
Secondly,
Poroshenko is more likely to conclude peace with the Donbass, while
the US needs a war. Not because his conscience is bothering due to
the innocently murdered children. Poroshenko understands that in
peacetime he will have more power. Then he would become the second
most important political figure in Ukraine. While the top of the
podium is occupied by the US ambassador.
During
the time of military operations MVD head Avakov has an advantage, and
Avakov is a protégé of Turchinov and Yatsenyuk, who are
Poroshenko’s competitors. Then there’s Kolomoysky, who has formed
an entire army in the east of the country out of criminal elements,
which does not take Kiev’s orders. Poroshenko can deal with his
competition only in peacetime.
Question:
What are the disagreements between Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk,
Turchinov, Kolomoysky?
Poroshenko
has been in conflict with Yatsenyuk and Turchinov since Yatsenyuk
became prime minister. Yatsenyuk began to earn a lot of money off
that job and did not want to share with anyone.
Poroshenko
understands that one of them (Yatsenyuk or Turchinov) can occupy the
president’s seat. He did everything to exclude Yatsenyuk from the
political team. But VP Biden flew in and insisted on a big coalition.
Games continued up to then. On the one hand Yatsenyuk wanted a
coalition without Poroshenko, on the other, Poroshenko wanted a
coalition without Yatsenyuk.
Kolomoysky
needs resources to improve his business, which is in a difficult
situation. But Poroshenko did not give him refinancing. He received
refinancing only once, after he established his assets in the Crimea.
Then he threw means his assets onto the currency market, leading to a
jump in national currency.
Incidentally,
at the moment the hryvnya exchange rate is holding on only because
all exchange points have been closed. There is an exchange rate, but
dollars can be bought only from “bosses.” The actual exchange
rate is 30-40% higher than the state acknowledges.
Kolomoysky
desperately needs money and is not getting them. That’s why the
conflict with Poroshenko. And, believe me, I know Kolomoysky well. If
he thought such conflict were impossible, he would not have entered
into it. Kolomoysky considers Poroshenko a very weak figure.
And
that’s all there’s to it. Poroshenko has nobody to rely on.
Americans don’t like him, and neither does the internal
competition. So the president is in a critical position. The stakes
are very high. His competitors want to carry out another armed
overthrow, and might simply kill Poroshenko. So for him what’s at
stake is not even money, but life.
Question:
How are Poroshenko’s opponents preparing?
Arseniy
Yatsenyuk already held a closed meeting with Avakov and a few
deputies. Yatsenyuk tasked them with organizing an information
campaign against Poroshenko. He must be made appear guilty for the
economic catastrophe. What’s more, they’ll blame Poroshenko for
the course of the hryvnya, the failure of the military operation on
the Donbass, and also appointing foreigners to ministerial posts.
Avakov
reassured everyone that he will share with the media participating in
the attack information from wiretaps on Poroshenko and from collected
secret information.
Question:
There is a version in the internet that at some point Ukraine will
suffer an economic collapse, and the current Kiev regime will simply
dissolve. How would you comment that?
Things
don’t happen all by themselves. There is no reason for optimism.
The US has many scenarios. First of all, they have created a whole
slew of loyal politicians. Once the pro-US Poroshenko leaves, he’ll
be replaced by the pro-US Turchinov or Yatsenyuk. Then the mayor of
Lvov Sadovy or someone else. They are all pro-US. There are no
non-pro-US politicians capable of coming to power. The bench is well
protected and will implement the will of the US.
During
the Vietnam War, the pro-US authorities of that country changed many
times. But the war continued. Every new leader shifted responsibility
for earlier failures to the earlier one, and the cycle continued
without pause. The war stopped only when the communist North won it.
Neither the political situation nor the military nor economic
influenced it.
Question:
Are there also several scenarios for the Donbass?
Absolutely.
The first scenario is the military confrontation, which is showing
its flaws. But the Ukrainian authorities believed they had enough
military power to overcome LPR/DPR resistance. They considered two
variants: a complete elimination of us—the separatists or, if the
worst comes to worst, take three quarters of Donetsk and isolate LPR
and DPR from one another. But it didn’t work out like that.
Novorossia
armed forces offered resistance and are now storming Avdeevka and
Peski in order to stop the shelling of Donetsk. The Ukrainian army is
panicking. The road from Donetsk to Kiev is full of vehicles,
nationalists are fleeing with their loot. Something similar is taking
place in Mariupol.
The
second scenario is the economic isolation of the Donbass. LPR and DPR
cannot run their economy without support. Russia will be forced to
help. Then it faces a choice. If they help, Russia will be punished
for military assistance, if no, they’ll punish for economic
support.
Right
now none of the Ukrainian politicians are speaking of peace and
restoring neighborly relations with Russia. They understand that the
US will control the situation for some time to come and therefore are
using the anti-Russian slogans just to survive. However, some of my
fellow deputies are taking their families out of Kiev abroad or to
other cities because they don’t want to suffer from the vacuum of
power that will occur in the event of a coup.
Question:
so the Ukrainian tragedy will continue to make headlines for a long
time?
If
nobody shows interest in Ukraine, for a very long time. Russia has
not interfered in Ukrainian politics for over 20 years. Americans and
Europeans entirely freely worked in the country. They spent billions
of dollars. They created 5 thousand of NGOs, 150 thousand workers
received their salaries. That’s an entire army that obeyed orders
and created the Maidan when it was needed.
Russia
was working with individual members of the elite, not paying
attention to the public opinion. And those representatives did not
always discharge their responsibilities due to their personal
mentality. That was a big mistake.
Also,
when CIS was formed, Russia undertook not to work on the territory of
adjacent states. It meant that Russia for a long time had no ability
to influence CIS countries’ public opinion.
Therefore
right now we must not let the situation resove itself. The fascist
regimes in Latin America survived for decades with US support.
Political opponents were eliminated, death squads were at work, the
masses suffered in poverty, the economy was destroyed, but nobody
could do anything.
Question:
So they’ll overthrow Poroshenko, but the peaceful citizenry will
continue to die…Minsk Agreements are not being implemented, the
“Normandy Four” meeting was cancelled…
Right
now Russia is trying to establish some sort of a relationship with
Poroshenko. But if he is overthrown, it will be an entirely different
country.
Even
greater Russophobes will come to power, hard-core US puppets who have
no ties to Russia.
Poroshenko
spoke about his presidency already three years before coming to
power. He came to Moscow, met with influential people. Poroshenko, as
you may remember, was a minister of foreign affairs, he has excellent
contacts.
I
know that the overthrow is planned for the anniversary of the Maidan.
On February 15 there will be a national assembly in Kiev. And it’s
entirely possible that about 8pm it will transform into an armed
assault on the president’s administration, as it did when
Yanukovych was president.
Poroshenko
understands the risks perfectly well. He already created a working
group to prevent a coup. Its members are highly placed “power
ministry” officials and those members of the administration who
oversee the power structures.
Translator’s
Note: Tsarev’s
understanding of the internal Ukrainian politics is certainly second
to none. I would take issue with his characterization of the level of
US interest and involvement. Clearly, the US government tried to
score a cheap geopolitical victory by pulling Ukraine into its orbit.
But neither the US nor the EU are showing any interest of paying the
cost of maintaining the current regime in power, which is a major
difference between the current US approach and the policies adopted
during the Cold War, when the USG spent billions of dollars on its
fascist puppets.
Poroshenko
is likely to be overthrown due to lack of US support
rather than a US plot. Moreover, one has to keep in mind that should
Poroshenko be overthrown, it will be difficult for the US to justify
subsidizing yet another Ukrainian government that came into power
through violence. There are no indications the US is planning to open
the spigots once Poroshenko leaves, and there is no anti-Poroshenko
campaign in the Western media, which would be a sure sign of an
impending overthrow. The people who are likely to be doing the
overthrowing, the Right Sector et al., do not follow orders from the
US or anywhere else—they are merely reacting to the weakness of the
current system, including not only Poroshenko but also Yatsenyuk,
Turchinov, and everyone else, who are as vulnerable as Poroshenko, if
only because it’s Yatsenyuk whose face is associated with the
“shock therapy”, not Poroshenko.
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