This
interview comes the closes to revealing the truth on mainstream media
FREDERICK
KAUFMAN: FINANCIALISED FOOD
American
journalist and author, Frederick Kaufman, whose new book is Bet the Farm: How Food
Stopped Being Food.
Radio
New Zealand
Author
Frederick Kaufman Tries To Follow The Money In Bet The Farm
A
book about "how food stopped being food"
8
November, 1012
One
of the more gripping tales I've read in some time wasn't a potboiler
thriller or the latest installment of a Swedish murder mystery, but
food journalist Frederick
Kaufman's attempt to find
out what's behind the current and very real the food crisis. In his
new book, Bet
The Farm: How Food Stopped Being Food,
the veteran writer and professor starts with a simple question: why
can't delicious, inexpensive and healthy food be available to
everyone on earth?
He
starts his quest by looking at fast-food pizza, and how Domino's
manages to make the same pies everywhere while keeping prices
affordable. Soon, he's visiting mozzarella makers in Colorado, tomato
farms in California, laboratories and CEO's offices. Kaufman becomes
spellbound by the hunger problems facing the world, and this
obsession propels him on what in turn is a spellbinding journey. It's
sort of like Heart
of Darkness,
but with pepperoni.
The
book is a must-read especially for anyone who has been hearing about
how the commodities market has affected everything from hunger to
GMO's to obesity. But I'd say the 259-pager is fascinating enough for
everyone. It might even make the perfect holiday gift for a friend or
family member — unless they happen to work for Monsanto. I caught
up with Kaufman at downtown NYC lunch spot The Smile for sandwiches
and details.
What
was the green-light moment to get started on this book?
I
had been writing about American food culture for Harper's
for many years, and one oevening I had drinks with my editor and we
couldn’t think of anything more to say about food, and so we all of
the sudden realized that it was no longer about the food, it was
about not enough food. It was about hunger.
You
say in the book that you use the old Watergate technique: you follow
the money?
I
thought I had a really simple question: Why can’t there be healthy,
delicious and inexpensive food for everybody on earth? Then I learned
that people go hungry not
because there isn’t enough food. We make more than twice the amount
of food needed to feed everybody on this planet. The reason people go
hungry is because they can’t afford the food. And so I switched my
question to: How does food get its price?
In
the process, you go into places where I’m sure you weren’t
welcome like Tyson’s chicken and Domino's Pizza's mozzarella
supplier?
I
think every investivagative journalist knows how hard it is to get
into places where it’s not necessarily in their best interest for
you to be. I simply called up Domino’s and I said I’d lke to
understand the anatomy of a pepperoni pizza. And they let me in. And
now they’re very angry about that.
But
you don’t really pin it on Domino’s?
I
think I was really fair to Domino’s and to Tyson Foods. I think I
gave an incredibly fair shake to the scientists involved in genetic
alteration of food. I think I was very fair to the World Food
Program. And I think I gave a fair shake to Wall Street, which is
where I finally ended up. The funny thing is that the only people who
really don’t complain are the bankers, because they know what the
deal really is.
Did
it ultimately end up making you feel depressed to come to these
conclusions? What was your reaction?
There
is value in knowledge; there is joy in understanding how it works.
And when I came to finally understand how it works there was
opportunity to fix the problem. So one of the problems is compassion
fatigue, depression— there are real ways to stop speculation in
global food and to make food delicious, inexpensive and healthy for
everybody on earth.
That’s
the argument against GMO’s, and yet the corporations keep
suggesting that if there’s no GMO’s, the world’s going to
starve. Are they being disingenuous?
You
use the word "disingenuous." I would go further and I would
say there is a profound depth of hypocrisy to what a company like
Monsanto is up to and Bayer Agroscience and Syngenta. And the problem
ultimately is one of their monopoly and intellectual property rights
and proprietary technology. This is a topic that is very emotional
and we can see that playing out in Proposition 37 in California right
now [the
measure was voted down on Tuesday].
I believe that there should be transparency but there’s something
more, which is that we need to get the money out of the profit stream
for Monsanto, and Cyngenta and Bayer Agroscience and Dow
Agrochemical.
Have
the executives at these companies been brainwashed into thinking that
they're doing the right thing?
People
in the industry and often people in academia are mistaking
environmental sustainability for economic sustainability. This is
another form of the subtitle of the book. Many of the industry
players no longer think of food as food. They think of food as a
spreadsheet, a legal construct, a political football or some sort of
a financial derivative — a financial instrument known as a
derivative. And of course Wall Street has exploited the fact that
food is no longer perceived as food, and stepped right in and made
windfall profits on the ever-growing price of global commodities.
Let's
talk about GMOs, which also play a role in the book.
I
spent a year traveling from one genetic modification laboratory to
another. I saw hundreds of growouts with all sorts of different
plants. I met a woman whose lifelong goal is to create a square
tomato. I met a woman, Dr. Pamela Ronald, who has created a variety
of rice that is resistant to the worst rice blight in Asia. These two
things are not equal: if you create a square tomato that Unilever or
Heinz likes [so it can] get more in a box, or if you’re creating
something that could potentially have a tremendously positive effect
on small farmers and on Asian rice production. So it’s kind of like
saying, Science: Good or bad? And it’s dangerous to keep our
thinking so narrow about such a big topic. Monsanto is a bad player,
and we have to get them out of the business — Roundup Ready, the
way its’ being spread and the way it's working out legally, this is
bad, and we all know this. Is this a reason to stop funding
throughout America, academic research in food? The scientists
themselves perceive Monsanto as a bad player.
Are
there any corporations that are trying to do better to help solve the
problems?
I
cannot speak for Monsanto, but when I’m at Tyson Foods — which in
its own way is infamous for being a bad player — I met people who
really belived that they were helping not only to feed the world but
to save the world. I think people believe this, and I guess now that
corporations are people we can say that corporations feel this way
too. (I’m clearly being sarcastic.) Bill Gates believes that
bringing commodities markets to Uganda and Tanzania and Guatemala
will be helpful. I do not believe he’s disingenuous. I simply
believe he’s wrong.
What
would you recommend as far as resources? What can people do to
improve the situation? Even at the dinner table?
The
ultimate solution to the problem are agro-ecological farming methods
and more localized food systems. But we’re not quite there yet
because we’re not at a fair playing field because industrialized
food and securitized food and financialized food have all the
advantages that small farmers and small supply chains do not have. So
how do we get to that fair playing field? Well, politics is messy.
Maybe we don’t even love politics this much, but this is the path,
and we should be happy that there is a path such as politics which
isn’t always the case in other countries.
What
about on the financial side? Your book ends up focusing on the
markets...
We
can try to push for position limits so that banks are limited in the
amount of speculative investments they can make in global food. We
can push for US strategic grain reserve, which we had up until the
late 1990s, which will help stabilize the price of food.
What
about the home cook who doesn’t want to spend time on politics? Can
shopping at farmer's markets really do anything?
Farmers
markets and good real food are essential elements of the solution.
They must be encouraged and we need to grow it. However, I don’t
believe that this problem can be solved simply by consumer choice.
That’s’ what I came to see in this book. That’s the ultimate
solution, but to make it ultimate there have to be financial
reforms.
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