Exclusive: Nato chief says UK staying in the EU is key to fighting terrorism
Speaking
a day before Britain votes, Jens Stoltenberg says fragmented Europe
would add to uncertainty and instability
23
June, 2016
Britain’s
role at the heart of Europe is
crucial in combating terrorism and illegal mass migration, the head
of Nato has said on the eve of the UK referendum on EU membership.
In
an interview with the Guardian at Nato headquarters
in Brussels, Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general, also said a
fragmented Europe would exacerbate instability in the region.
“I
don’t have a vote. It’s up to the people of Britain to decide,”
Stoltenberg said. “What I can do is tell you what matters for Nato,
and a strong UK in a strong Europe is good for the UK and it’s good
for Nato, because we are faced with unprecedented security
challenges, with terrorism, with instability and an unpredictable
security environment, and a fragmented Europe will add to instability
and unpredictability.”
His
intervention came on the last day of campaigning before Thursday’s
vote. Senior politicians on both sides of the close-fought referendum
battle are
crisscrossing Britain in the final hours, with the result still
too close to call.
Stoltenberg
was just one of a number of European statesmen to weigh in on the eve
of the referendum.
France’s
president, François Hollande, said the European Union’s future was
at stake on Thursday. “There’s a very serious risk for the United
Kingdom not to be able to access the common market and … the
European economic area any more,” he said. France would “draw all
the conclusions” of a vote to leave. “This would be
irreversible.”
Belgium’s
prime minister, Charles Michel, said that whatever the outcome of
Thursday’s vote, he would seek a special meeting of European
Union leaders
to assess what had sent the bloc off the rails. Michel said he wanted
an informal meeting because “there is this clear signal all over
Europe, not only in Britain” of discontent. “We feel more and
more hesitation about the European project,” he told the VRT
network.
The
head of the European commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, warned British
voters there would be no reopening of talks on Britain’s place in
the EU in the event of a vote to leave. “Out means out,” he said.
“British policymakers and British voters have to know that there
will be no kind of renegotiation.
“We
have concluded a deal with the prime minister. He got the maximum he
could receive and we gave the maximum we could give. So there will be
no renegotiation,” Juncker said.
Many
Nato officials are concerned that what they see as the two biggest
threats to European security – Islamic State, together with other
Islamic extremists, and a newly aggressive Kremlin – both have the
fragmentation of Europe as a strategic goal.
“The
UK is the biggest force provider among European Nato allies, so it
matters what the UK does and for Nato it is an advantage to have UK
leadership inside the European Union being a strong advocate for
transatlantic cooperation and also for EU-Nato cooperation,”
Stoltenberg said.
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Stoltenberg,
who has been Nato secretary general since 2014, said Britain acted as
an important bridge between the EU and Nato and promoted the sharing
of information on the terrorist threat. EU-Nato cooperation had been
instrumental in curbing the mass movement of people across the Aegean
Sea, he added.
“To
fight the terrorist threat we need both the EU and Nato and we need
stronger cooperation between Nato and the European Union,” he said.
“And the UK is pushing and showing leadership in pursuing that both
from inside Nato and from inside EU. If our neighbourhoods are more
stable, we are more secure.”
Stoltenberg,
a former prime minister of Norway, pointed out that his country had
opted not to join the EU in a 1994 referendum, and now had a much
higher rate of immigration for its size than the UK.
He
said cooperation between the EU and Nato on cyber-defences and on
blocking people trafficking was increasing.
“The
UK is a kind of bridge between the EU and Nato and also a bridge
between Europe and the United States. And this is important for UK,
the US and for Nato,” he said. “No one of us has all the tools in
the toolkit, so we have to work together and the UK is a key ally in
facilitating that.”
Stoltenberg
campaigned for his country to join the EU in 1994, and he said that
while he respected the voters’ decision to stay out, he had not
changed his mind on the advantages of EU membership.
“The
arrangement [Norway] now has with the European Union is that we pay a
huge amount of money to the European Union. We implement EU decisions
and directives, but we don’t have a say. We are not at the table,”
he said.
“Norway
actually receives more migrants compared to its size than the United
Kingdom … significantly more, compared to the size. So even if you
stay outside the European Union you are affected by decisions made
inside Europe, and so I think it’s better to be at the table
influencing those decisions and those developments instead of being
outside but being affected by decisions by the European Union.”
On
the prospect of a European army, in the shape of greater European
military integration with a European command headquarters,
Stoltenberg said any move towards more European resources being put
into defence was to be welcomed, while duplication of structures was
not.
He
said it was not clear how ambitious the EU foreign service’s plans
for common defence would be, but added that the UK was an important
voice inside the EU helping to prevent any such duplication between
the EU and Nato.
Another
Nato official said: “The UK voice has been critical in stopping the
EU trying to fill roles that are already performed by Nato. What we
are concerned about is if we lose that voice on the inside in
Brussels.”
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