Saturday, 9 January 2016

Tropical Storms Are Now Forming During Winter

See this discussion below from Robertscribbler's Facebook page testifying to his addiction to Hopium.

This is What the Athropocene Looks Like — Tropical Storms Are Now Forming During Winter


8 January, 2015
Tropical Storms in both the Atlantic and Pacific during January. It could happen this week. And it’s all due to this new Anthropocene weather we’re now experiencing.
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The Holocene ended more than half a century ago. That’s when human impacts from the production of plastics, to the use of nuclear materials, to the forcing of species extinction,became what scientists now believe to be the dominant influence on this era of Earth history. It was also the time when human beings were in the process of plotting a course to radically alter the Earth’s climate. Pumping greenhouse gasses into the global environment at the fastest pace ever recorded in the geological record. Setting the stage for a warming event not seen in millions of years and, perhaps, in all of time on this world. One that would fundamentally alter the geophysical nature of the Earth system from the bottom of the oceans to the top of the atmosphere.

And it sure does feel like it — with the North Pole now experiencing above-freezing temperatures during Winter and with both the Atlantic and the Pacific retaining enough heat and instability to brew up tropical cyclones during January.
Unprecedented Tropical Cyclone Development in Both the Pacific and the Atlantic During January

It’s really a bit of an understatement to say that January is not a month where we usually see tropical cyclone formation in the Northern Hemisphere. Back in the 1870s it happened in the Atlantic. Once. In the Pacific, which tends to host sea surface temperatures that are hotter than those in the Atlantic, the various basins can sometimes see these beasts blow up early on in the year. Sometimes meaning that two have only ever been recorded during January — Winona on January 9 of 1985 and Ekeka on January 26 of 1992.

Since climatology is the understanding of trends in average weather over long periods, we can probably say that the off-season tropical cyclone climatology has already changed for the Pacific. During the 148 years since record keeping began in 1832 for the Pacific through to 1980 only seven tropical cyclones were recorded to have formed during the period of December through May. During just the 35 years since 1980, we’ve seen nearly twice that many — 12. In other words, the rate of recorded off-season storm formation septupled or increased a factor of 7. And both the earliest and the latest named stormed have now formed during back-to-back years — Nine C on New Years Eve less than two weeks ago and now Pali on January 7th.

What we are seeing now is unprecedented by any measure of tropical weather system climatology. We have never seen a tropical storm form so early in the Central Pacific at the same time during which a similar, very rare, tropical system was threatening to form in the Atlantic. In other words, it’s not just both events in isolation that’s quite odd. It’s the fact they are both happening side-by-side.
Pali — Earliest Tropical Cyclone to have Ever Formed in Central Pacific

Pali, in particular, is an unusual beast. According to Weather Underground, as of early this morning Pali was whipping up 65 mile per hour winds and rough surf along a broad region of water some 1350 miles southeast of Hawaii. Pali spun up out of a westerly wind burst and storm pattern associated with the monster El Nino now going off in the Pacific. But even during past super El Ninos, related odd tropical systems have tended to form mainly during late November through to mid December. The formation of Pali is then possibly associated with both this late peaking El Nino and with sea surface temperatures in the Pacific that are now among the hottest ever seen in human reckoning.

Pali projected path
(According to today’s National Hurricane Center forecast, Pali could stick around for quite some time. This record earliest Pacific cyclone could last into the middle of January — spinning out westerly winds that aid in the maintenance and possible re-intensification of the current super El Nino. Image source: NOAA’s Central Pacific Hurricane Center.)

Pali is expected to meander along the Central Pacific equatorial region in which it formed over the next six days. It is predicted to maintain tropical storm intensity throughout this period — making it a rather long-lasting weather system. Expected to re-curve back toward the Equator near the 175 West Longitude line, the strong westerlies associated with Pali could also aid in maintaining or even increasing the strength of our current super El Nino — driving warm water up-welling in the Eastern Pacific to reinvigorate. Sea surface temperatures in the range of 27 to 28 degrees Celsius are more than enough to maintain tropical storm intensity. Meanwhile, sea surfaces in the range of 3-4 degrees Celsius hotter than normal just to the southeast of Pali will continue to provide considerable moisture for the storm to feed upon. Wind shear, therefore, is the only major limiter for Pali. And though shear appears to be strong enough to preclude Pali’s development into a typhoon, it is not at this time predicted to become intense enough to disperse Pali. So, if the forecast is correct, we’re looking at this storm sticking around for at least another week.

30 Percent Chance of Tropical Cyclone Development in the Atlantic During January


As if Pali and this ramping trend of off-season tropical cyclone formation in the Pacific weren’t enough to put an exclamation point after the sentence — tropical storms are forming earlier than they used to — we have a concordant potential tropical cyclone development happening at the same time in the Atlantic. A weird storm is taking on extra-tropical characteristics off the US East Coast. Already packing gale-force winds in the range of 60-65 miles per hour, this odd system now has the potential to become a warm-core, tropical low as it moves eastward toward the Azores.
The storm now sits over sea surface temperatures in the range of 23-26 degrees Celsius. That’s much, much hotter than normal (2 to 8 degrees Celsius above average) for that region of the North Atlantic for this time of year. It’s also in the range that’s generally considered just about enough to support tropical storm and even possibly hurricane formation. Subsequently, the National Hurricane Center sees the potential for a warm core formation in this system and has given it a 10 percent chance of becoming a tropical storm over the next 48 hours.
Odd North Atlantic System Potential Tropical Storm
(Very odd North Atlantic Gale rages over record warm waters in the North Atlantic. This system now has a 10 percent chance to develop into a tropical cyclone over the next 48 hours. Over the next five days, the chance of tropical cyclone development jumps to 30 percent. Image source: The National Hurricane Center.)

This freakish system is then expected to skirt the southern edge of a powerful low between the UK and Greenland. Tracking eastward toward Africa, its winds are predicted to further intensify as it heads toward somewhat warmer waters. Over the next five days, the National Hurricane Center gives a moderate chance (30 percent) that this system will form into a tropical cyclone.
As noted above, such weather patterns are not at all normal for the North Atlantic. And if a hurricane or tropical storm did form during January in the North Atlantic it would be the first time since 1872. Again it’s a case of we’ve never seen weather like this before. We’ve never seen hurricanes so early in the Central Pacific. We’ve never seen sea surface temperatures so warm during Winter off the US East Coast. And we’ve never seen the potential development of a January Atlantic tropical system at the same time such systems are riling the waters of the Equatorial Pacific.
The scientists were absolutely right. The Holocene is over. We’re living on a different planet.
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In the comments section of the article Robertscribbler showed himself to be pretty "hopeful" about COP21 even when his hero and mentor, James Hansen is not.


This seems to be part and parcel of being a pro-growth, pro-Obama liberal, which I find pretty offensive.

A pity, because I find Robertscribbler one of our best environmental journalists.

My own comment was this: 
I would have thought that if we were intellectually honest we would take all the evidence together (from ALL disciplines) to draw conclusions about where humanity is headed. It is not a case of "giving up" but of conflict ting the implication of the knowledge we have. Conclusions should follow from the evidence, not from whether the conclusions are "productive" of not. I understand why people tal about hopium.

Robertscribbler There's this tendency to attack COP 21 which is pretty counter-productive. What we should be saying about COP 21 is that it was progress, but that it wasn't enough of a commitment yet to deal with the problem adequately. If we go back to COP 22 and get...See More
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Robertscribbler The current global path is for a 40 percent GHG reduction by 2030 and a 75 percent reduction by 2050. That's a pretty big commitment. And though it's not yet enough to miss 2 C with a high level of certainty by this Century it's a much, much stronger c...See More
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Kevin Hester Voluntary reductions are the reductions you have when you don't have reductions. Factor in the melting permafrost and disasters like the methane catastrophe in California and all we are doing is listening to the band on the deck of the Titanic long after the point of no return. Brace for imminent impact
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Robertscribbler Robert Dupuis The conference commits to broad reductions goals, not to specific pathways. That's for the individual countries. So of course it's not going to mention a specific method. I'm sorry to say, but it seems you've been somewhat misinformed.
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Robertscribbler Kevin Hester Well, if you want to give up. Build a ship called the Titanic, go sail it toward an iceburg, and go play with the band. But for those of us interested in actually making a difference -- that means holding governments and businesses account...See More
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Kevin Hester I haven't given up Robert, far from it. I am doing what I would do on a ship.
I have completed 16 ocean passages on yachts, over half as a skipper. As a skipper I must declare when a ship is sinking and not pretend that the situation is fixable when it...See More
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Robertscribbler Michael Green Again we have a great degree of misunderstanding as to what the climate conference actually is. It's not global government. It's a meeting of governments. So it's up to the governments themselves to turn the agreement into policy. In a wa...See More
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Robertscribbler Kevin Hester I think, Kevin, that your mixing of metaphors doesn't apply here in the least. The ship has not sunk. We are all here. We are all still alive. And we all still have choices. And the best choice we could make now is to reduce emissions as rapidly as possible. Not rant endlessly about why we should all just give up.
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Robertscribbler Dupuis, McNulty, Kevin, Mcpherson, Doomerism doesn't live here. I'm very sorry about your current depression. But I'm not buying it. I'm doing what I can to save people's lives and I'm sad, but not surprised, that you're not doing the same.
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Kevin Hester I have never advocated giving up. My position is based on living in the reality of where we are at.
Yelling fire in a burning theatre is a duty, pretending it is being dealt with when it patently isn't is dereliction of that duty
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Robertscribbler Luke Orsborne You tear down current civilization, and there's no hope for effective, mass-level response. In fact, it's the degradation of group-action structures and blocking of those structures that has caused this problem in the first place. If you...See More
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Kevin Hester Industrial civilisation is the problem and can't be a part of the solution.
One of the reasons we have destroyed this planet is because we are so human centric, it's not and should not always be about us.
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Robertscribbler You've fallen into an ideological trap, Kevin. You've conflated industrialism with fossil fuel use and carbon emissions. The center of gravity here is fossil fuels. And, oddly enough, your attacks here are defending them.
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Robertscribbler An interesting ideological point of view. But if you want to deal with the greenhouse gas crisis. If you want to reduce the harm coming down the pipe. It's pretty simple. Stop emitting greenhouse gasses. All this other ideation is simple distraction. O...See More
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Robertscribbler Way off topic, Luke. Way, way, way off base.
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Kevin Hester Respectfully I agree with Luke and believe the issues are intrinsically linked.
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Robertscribbler It's ever-so easy to wrap a false premise -- doomerism -- in the truth. It's ever-so easy, apparently, to ignore the fact that the center of gravity to the whole carbon emissions problem is carbon emissions. Sure, modern civ has other problems. And we...See More
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Wendy Bandurski-Miller Respectfully how the social/political/government response to a world climatic disruption issue be solved outside and separate from the culture in which it was spawned?

I consider *way off topic* to be code for reductionist thinking because quite fra...See More
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Robertscribbler Wendy Bandurski-Miller Actually, no. If we'd had COP 21 30 years ago, we'd have been in much better shape. What got us where we are now is this divisive attitude. This notion that nothing can be done. The notion that human civ deserves collapse and that people, somehow, deserve to suffer. That's pretty reprehensible, really.
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Wendy Bandurski-Miller If we'd had COP 21 30 years ago, we'd have been in much better shape - so 1985? the year the Rainbow Warrior was SUNK?

*Is this divisive attitude?* actually i am ALL about putting the here and now in context....not separating it into separate scien...See More
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Michael Green >Why is there so much opposition to COP21? I'd bet that it's because if it is actually fully implemented, even as it, it means the fossil fuel industry basically doesn't exist anymore. It means this industry goes through a series of crashes.

The iron...See More
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Guy McPherson James Hansen correctly called COP21 a "fraud" and "bullshit." Bill McKibben said it will leave us with a planet that is "uninhabitable." Apparently honesty is counterproductive.
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Robertscribbler Hansen's peeved. And rightly so. He warned people back in 1989 and has been fighting like hell for a great carbon emissions reduction policy that has basically been ignored ever since. But I think what's missed in all the big words and explosions and d...See More
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Robin Westenra I would have thought that if we were intellectually honest we would take all the evidence together (from ALL disciplines) to draw conclusions about where humanity is headed. It is not a case of "giving up" but of conflict ting the implication of the knowledge we have. Conclusions should follow from the evidence, not from whether the conclusions are "productive" of not. I understand why people tal about hopium.
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Rick Hill There is little doubt, irrespective of any " consensus... 😀
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Michelle Walters cop21 IS bullshit! it's late to mince words.
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Rick Hill OMG
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Kevin Hester Anthropogenic climate disruption, get used to it, there is no normal any more.
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Marc Haneburghthttps://www.facebook.com/100010385239407/videos/vb.100010385239407/142362276119946/?type=2&theater
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A 3 1/2 min Video."The Its All OK Climate Rap Video".Talk is cheap + a climate denier fun section.
Of course Professor Guy McPherson is in the video,the only truth teller.
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3 1/3 min Radio Excerpt *** Info for People Just Realizing the Dangers of Abrupt Climate Change
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Terry Bennett The last article I read about the Anthropocene Era noted that this is just a theory. This article seems to be sure it has started. I wonder what the majority of the scientific community believes.
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Robertscribbler Read the linked article by the Guardian. Consensus is building. The Holocene is over.
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Michael Green @Robert DeWit: Giving up was a term used by John Wayne. It's loaded with everything from George Lucas to Disney Studios. You "believe in overshoot," you say. Do you have any idea what it is? Do you have any idea why the good people at COP-21 failed to ...See More
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Andrew DeWit Robertsribbler is a treasure of news and critical insights into the most important crisis of our time. Excellent work. Always deeply informative, without exaggeration (which is indeed unnecessary and counterproductive, but some want to slather on).

Here is another conversation - 


Guy McPherson James Hansen correctly called COP21 a "fraud" and "bullshit." Bill McKibben said it will leave us with a planet that is "uninhabitable." Apparently honesty is counterproductive.
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Robertscribbler Hansen's peeved. And rightly so. He warned people back in 1989 and has been fighting like hell for a great carbon emissions reduction policy that has basically been ignored ever since. But I think what's missed in all the big words and explosions and d...See More
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Guy McPherson As we've known for years, only collapse of civilization prevents runaway climate change. That's what I work toward, and not merely to prevent runaway climate change (there are many aspects of civilization that are omnicidal).
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Anke Hagen I agree 100% with you Guy. What would be interesting however is a blueprint as to how this would work (*exactly*) for 7 billion humans. We need a 'how to' manual. That would be a fantastic project for you and Kevin to work on!
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Vernon Brechin My impression was that even though COP21 may have advanced the goals they didn't come up with strong incentives, or other means, to achieve anything close to even the 2.0°C limit goal. - Patting each other on the back for achieving an agreement is not a very effective motivator.
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Rick Hill Two degrees is baked in the cake! We are now working to save highly complex forms of life... The COP is no where near adequate... We need a bloody miracle at this point...
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Robin Westenra I find it fascinating to see how it is possible to write so accurately about abrupt climate change and be so "hopeful" about the charade that was COP21. Hansen didn't describe it as "bullshit" for nothing.

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  1. Hey Robin,
    You're right about Scribbler.
    He banned me last week from commenting on his blog when I raised the fact that COP21 was a fraud.
    He hates the term Hopium.

    He's brilliant at composing informative blog posts, but can't bring himself to accept that folks like you, Guy, Hansen are correct.
    There is going to be absolutely no decrease in CO2 as a result of COP21.
    And there was no mention of clathrates.
    NTHE is coming up.
    Peace to you.

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    1. You're so right. Would make a great study in the nature of denial.

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