The pro-National Party media has one view: social media quite another:
The
RECORDING PROVES IT
There
is no doubt Soyman knew about a $100,000 donation.
Soyman
refused to answer a yes or no question about this for the past 24
hours.
There
is also no doubt he knew it had been split up into smaller payments
with names supplied that disguised the real donor.
The
money was in the Botany Bank account - and was going to be used for
advertising according to Soyman.
There
is no way the National party would not have been able to find these
bank records.
There
are other recordings to come.
---Gerard
Otto, via Facebook
'He has defamed me and he is a liar' - Simon Bridges
17
October, 2018
Simon
Bridges has hit back after Jami-Lee Ross released a recording a phone
call in which Mr Bridges called MP Maureen Pugh 'f***ing useless'.
Mr
Bridges told media he listened to the recording, and began by sending
his heartfelt apologies to Maureen Pugh.
Mr
Bridges told media he listened to the recording, and began by sending
his heartfelt apologies to Maureen Pugh.
"I'm
mortified, there's no excuse."
In
the recording, the pair speak about potential Chinese candidates that
had been mentioned at their dinner with businessman Zhang Yikun.
He
said assuming the two candidates mentioned at the dinner did get
through candidate's college, they can make some decisions further
down the track with what they want to do.
"It's
like all these things, it's bloody hard, you've only got so much
space, it depends where we're polling, you know, all that sort of
thing," said Mr Bridges on the recording.
"Two
Chinese would be nice, but you then know would it be one Chinese and
one Filipino, or you know, what do we do."
Mr
Ross replied, "Two Chinese would be more valuable than two
Indians, I'd have to say."
"Yeah,
which is what we've got at the moment, right?" replied Mr
Bridges.
He
said this would cause problems with the list MPs.
"It's
a pretty mercenary cull," he said.
Mr
Bridges said they could end up getting rid of some list MPs to bring
in the new ones.
"I
reckon there's two or three of our Mps, who not picking up obvious
ones, like Finlayson or Carter, but actually we just want them to
go."
He
went on to say, "Maureen Pugh's f***ing useless."
Mr
Ross replied "yeah, I know" and then said "Carter,
Finlayson, Nicky Wagner, they don't really need to hang around."
"Yeah,
but we don't want them to go this year though... we probably wouldn't
want them all to go though, we want to do it well and we just want to
think it all through," said Mr Bridges.
Speaking
to media, Mr Bridges said this has been a "big and hard lesson"
for him and that he values his MPs.
He
said National needs to reflect the mutlicultural society New Zealand
is.
For
National to be representative of that, there is a strong argument for
opening it up to more Chinese members of Parliament, he said.
"We
want to make sure we're getting the right mix of candidates of
quality, whether they're Indian or Chinese, or Filipino, to represent
the mix of New Zealand. That's the right thing to do."
He
said it was a blunt, private conversation.
And
Mr Ross deliberately tried to set him up and attempted to criminally
blackmail him.
"I
don't stand for that sort of nonsense, as leader of the National
Party and 55 MPs agreed with my assessment, that's why he's gone."
He
said he's glad Mr Ross is no longer part of his caucus.
On
whether he would take Mr Ross to court for defamation, he said it's
hardly worth the effort.
Mr
Ross, who resigned from the party yesterday as the caucus was
expelling him, handed his recording over to the police earlier this
afternoon.
On
the call Ross mentions the $100,000 donation being "in"
which Simon says is "fantastic".
"I
promised them that we'd have dinner at my place, you should come,
might as well make a bit of fun of it," Mr Bridges said.
"We
should make good on that because otherwise I've lied to them because
I've said it a couple times now."
Mr
Bridges told media he thinks Mr Ross made it clear on the tape that
the donations were from different people within the organisation.
"I'll
tell you why I didn't explain it yesterday, because I'm a lawyer, I'm
a cautious person who takes things seriously..."
He
said he takes these things "bloody seriously".
Mr
Bridges said Mr Ross has been recording him for months, which is a
"monumental breach of trust".
"That's
on top of the many other things that he has done."
He
said the tape doesn't back Mr Ross' "lies" over the past 24
hours.
"The
reality is, on 14th May, I had a dinner with Mr Zhang and that was
because
Jami-Lee Ross knew him very well and was incredibly keen that
I do that.
"On
the 21st of May I attended a fundraiser for Paul Goldsmith and there
Mr Zhang was present, he told me that he and his supporters wanted to
donate a large sum of money, I think around $100,000 and I thanked
him and I made clear, that's something that Jami-Lee Ross should deal
with.
"I
then, that evening, let Jami-Lee Ross know that because of his
friendship with Mr Zhang the fact that he knew him very well and also
because of his deep experience, I would argue, expertise in relation
to electoral matters, in relation to collecting and organising a lot
of money, fundraising for himself and for the National Party over the
years."
Mr
Bridges has consistently and strongly denied any wrongdoing.
Releasing
the audio on Facebook, Mr Ross said it proved too difficult to
release the audio on Twitter.
He
wrote: "This audio confirms Simon Bridges and I discussing a
$100k donation on 25 June. Simon Bridges says I'm lying - this is
part of the evidence I gave to Police today."
The
police have confirmed they have received Mr Ross' complaint regarding
the disclosure of political donations under the Electoral Act.
In
a statement they say the information will be assessed by a Detective
Senior Sergeant at Police National Headquarters to determine what
further steps may be required.
It
will be progressed as quickly as possible, saying the police take any
complaint regarding alleged Electoral Act offences seriously, they
say.
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