Following Facebook I have been vaguely aware of claims in the tabloid press about a new ice age starting in the 2030's. I have not bothered to follow it because even if it were true I would suggest that by 2030 human civilisation (if not the species itself) will be toast.
Here is the response from Guy McPherson:
"This
shit about the mini ice age is so fucking ignorant and stupid it
hurts. I'll address it for about the twentieth time today. And the
last, if all goes well.
"The
clathrate gun has been fired. There is no way the proposed mini ice
age will significantly slow the heating.
"Every
report I've read about this study misquotes it. Solar *magnetic*
activity was evaluated. Media reports are claiming solar *intensity*
will decline.
"The
anticipated 60% reduction in solar magnetic-cycle magnitude
translates to a climate forcing of -0.1 W/m2. That's equivalent to a
decrease of 8 ppm atmospheric carbon dioxide. The atmosphere
currently holds about 400 ppm CO2, with 350 ppm ultimately lethal to
humans. Subtracting 8 ppm at this point is analogous to giving a
blood transfusion to a dead man."
Speaking for myself, I have fairly successfully insulated myself from the worst of the nutcases.
Here are a couple of reports responding to the reports.
If you want to see the claims you can see them here -
Here are a couple of reports responding to the reports.
If you want to see the claims you can see them here -
River
Thames could freeze over in 2030s when Northern Hemisphere faces
bitterly cold winters, scientists say
Media
Reports The World Will Enter A ‘Mini Ice Age’ In The 2030s. The
Reverse Is True.
Joe
Romm
13
July, 2015
U.K.
tabloids, conservative media, and others are (mis)reporting that
the Earth will enter a “mini ice age” in the 2030s. In fact, not
only is the story wrong, the reverse is actually true.
The
Earth is headed toward an imminent
speed-up in
global warming, as many recent studies have made clear, like
this June
study by
NOAA. Indeed, a March
study,
entitled “Near-term acceleration in the rate of temperature
change,” makes clear that a stunning acceleration in the rate of
global warming is around the corner — with Arctic warming rising
1°F per decade by the 2020s!
Also,
right now, we appear to be in the midst of a long-awaited jump in
global temperatures. Not only was 2014 the hottest year on record,
but 2015 is in the process of blowing
that record away.
On top of that, models say a massive El Niño is growing, as USA
Today reported last
week.
Since El Niños tend to set the record for the hottest years (since
the regional warming adds to the underlying global warming trend), if
2015/2016 does see a super El Niño then next year may well crush the
record this year sets.
Whatever
near-term jump we see in the global temperatures is thus likely to be
followed by an accelerating global warming trend — one that would
utterly overwhelm any natural variations such as a temporary
reduction in solar intensity.
A recent
study concluded
that “any reduction in global mean near-surface temperature due to
a future decline in solar activity is likely to be a small fraction
of projected anthropogenic warming.”
That’s
true even for one as big as the Maunder Minimum, which was linked to
the so-called Little Ice Age.
The
“Little Ice Age” is a term used to cover what appears to have
been two or three periods of modest cooling in the northern
hemisphere between 1550 and 1850.
I
know you are shocked, shocked to learn that unreliable climate
stories appear in U.K. tabloids, the conservative
media,
and those who cite them without actually talking to leading climate
scientists. Often there is a half truth underlying such stories, but
in this case it is more like a nano-truth.
Last
week, in Llandudno, north Wales, the Royal Astronomical Society (RAS)
held Cyfarfod
Seryddiaeth Cenedlaethol 2015 —
the “National Astronomy Meeting 2015″ (in case you don’t speak
Welsh). An RAS news release had this startling headline, “Irregular
Heartbeat Of The Sun Driven By Double Dynamo.”
Okay,
that wasn’t the startling part. This was: “Predictions from the
model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the
2030s to conditions last seen during the ‘mini ice age’ that
began in 1645.”
CREDIT:
WIKIPEDIA
Ah,
but the word choice was confusing. We’re not going to have
temperature “conditions” last seen during the Little Ice Age. If
this one study does turn out to be right, we’d see solar conditions
equivalent to the Maunder Minimum in the 2030s.
This
won’t cause the world to enter a mini ice age — for three
reasons:
- The Little Ice Age turns out to have been quite little.
- What cooling there was probably was driven more by volcanoes than the Maunder Minimum.
- The warming effect from global greenhouse gases will overwhelm any reduction in solar forcing, even more so by the 2030s.So how little was the Little Ice Age?The most comprehensive reconstruction of the temperature of the past 2000 years done so far, the “PAGES 2k project,” concluded that “there were no globally synchronous multi-decadal hot or cold intervals that define a worldwide Medieval Warm Period or Little Ice Age.”Green dots show the 30-year average of the new PAGES 2k reconstruction. The red curve shows the global mean temperature, according HadCRUT4 data from 1850 onwards. In blue is the original hockey stick of Mann, Bradley and Hughes (1999 ) with its uncertainty range (light blue). Graph by Klaus Bitterman.The Little Ice Age was little in duration and in geographic extent. It was an “Age” the way Pluto is a planet.Writing on Climate Progress, climatologist Stefan Rahmstorf noted the researchers “identify some shorter intervals where extremely cold conditions coincide with major volcanic eruptions and/or solar minima (as already known from previous studies).”That brings us to the second point: The latest research finds that what short-term cooling there was during the Little Ice Age was mostly due to volcanoes, not the solar minimum. As “Scientific American” explained in its 2012 piece on the LIA, “New simulations show that several large, closely spaced eruptions (and not decreased solar radiation) could have cooled the Northern Hemisphere enough to spark sea-ice growth and a subsequent feedback loop.” The period associated with the LIA “coincide with two of the most volcanically active half centuries in the past millennium, according to the researchers.”The cooling effect from the drop in solar activity during even a Maunder Minimum is quite modest. Environmental scientist Dana Nuccitelli discussed the literature underscoring that point in a U.K. Guardian post from the summer of 2013, the last time the “Maunder Minimum” issue popped up.That brings us to the third point: Whatever cooling the Little Ice Age saw as result of the Maunder Minimum, it pales in comparison to the warming we are already experiencing — let alone the accelerated warming projected by multiple studies. That’s clear even in Pages 2k reconstruction above.“Regional climate impacts of a possible future grand solar minimum.” This found that, “any reduction in global mean near-surface temperature due to a future decline in solar activity is likely to be a small fraction of projected anthropogenic warming.” As with the Little Ice Age, any significant effects are likely to be regional in nature — and, of course, temporary, since a grand solar minimum typically lasts only decades.So, no, the Daily Mail is quite wrong when it trumpets, “Scientists warn the sun will ‘go to sleep’ in 2030 and could cause temperatures to plummet.”In actuality, what is going to happen in the business-as-usual emissions scenario (RCP8.5) is closer to the figure below, which plots “rate of change” of warming:Global rates of decadal temperature change over 40-year periods. Results are shown for: central climate assumptions (thick solid line), range due to uncertainty in aerosol forcing (grey shading), and range due to uncertainty in climate sensitivity (blue shading). The outer bounding cases are shown as dotted lines. The thin solid black line shows the historical rate of change using the HADCRU4 observational data. The vertical dashed line indicates 2014. Via PNNL.In the RCP8.5 scenario, the rate of warming post-2050 becomes so fast that it is likely to be beyond adaptation for most species — and for humans in many parts of the world, as I discussed here. The warming rate in the central case hits a stunning 1°F per decade. Arctic warming would presumably be at least 2°F per decade. And this goes on for decades.No Maunder Minimum can save homo sapiens from that catastrophic outcome. Only humanity can — by ignoring those who deny or mislead on climate science and instead taking aggressive action to slash carbon pollution ASAP.
This
shit about the mini ice age is so fucking ignorant and stupid it
hurts. I'll address it for about the twentieth time today. And the
last, if all goes well.
The
clathrate gun has been fired. There is no way the proposed mini ice
age will significantly slow the heating.
Every
report I've read about this study misquotes it. Solar *magnetic*
activity was evaluated. Media reports are claiming solar *intensity*
will decline.
The
anticipated 60% reduction in solar magnetic-cycle magnitude
translates to a climate forcing of -0.1 W/m2. That's equivalent to a
decrease of 8 ppm atmospheric carbon dioxide. The atmosphere
currently holds about 400 ppm CO2, with 350 ppm ultimately lethal to
humans. Subtracting 8 ppm at this point is analogous to giving a
blood transfusion to a dead man.
No,
Earth is not heading toward a ‘mini ice age’
By
Chelsea Harvey
14
July, 2015
This
week, warnings of an impending “mini ice age,” set to hit in the
2030s, have been circulating in the media. It’s a story that has
caused shivers among the public, but there’s one problem: Climate
scientists aren’t
buying it.
The
ice age idea got rolling last week when researcher Valentina
Zharkova,
a professor of mathematics at Northumbria University in
England, presented some of her recent research into solar
variations at the Royal Astronomical Society’s National Astronomy
Meeting in Wales. The presentation was based on a study she
had published
last year in
the Astrophysical Journal, which presented a technique for
understanding variations in solar radiation and made some predictions
about how this radiation will change in the near future. Most
notably, the research predicts that between 2030 and 2040, solar
activity should drop significantly, leading to a condition known as a
“solar minimum.”
According
to the research, solar activity at this time should resemble
conditions last seen in the mid-1700s during a period known of low
solar radiation known as the “Maunder Minimum.” The interesting
thing about this period was that it coincided with a “little
ice age” in Europe and North America — a time marked by unusually
cold temperatures and bitter winters. Now that Zharkova and her
colleagues are predicting another solar minimum coming up, media
coverage has jumped on the idea that a modern “mini ice age”
is in store.
It’s
a dramatic idea, but it isn’t being embraced by many climate
scientists, who argue that anthropogenic global warming —
brought on by a human outpouring of greenhouse gas emissions into the
atmosphere — will far outweigh any climate effects that might
be caused by the sun. As far as the solar variations go, “The
effect is a drop in the bucket, a barely detectable blip, on
the overall warming trajectory we can expect over the next
several decades from greenhouse warming,” said Michael
Mann,
distinguished professor of meteorology at Pennsylvania State
University, in an e-mail to The Washington Post.
However,
the issue isn’t so simple for Zharkova, who is openly skeptical
about the strength of anthropogenic greenhouse gases when
compared to the influence of the sun.
On
the one hand, Zharkova maintains that her research was not intended
to make assumptions about the effects of solar variation on climate —
only to lay out predictions about the solar activity itself. “What
will happen in the modern Maunder Minimum we do not know yet and can
only speculate,” she says. On the other hand, she adds, her
gut assumption is that temperatures will drop as they did 370
years ago.
The
reason, she says, is her belief that the sun is a bigger influence on
earthly climate than the effects of greenhouse gases in the
atmosphere. “I am not convinced with the arguments of the
group promoting global warming of an anthropogenic nature,”
Zharkova says, adding that she would need to examine more research
before she could take a clear stance on anthropogenic climate change.
Given the right evidence, she says she might accept that human-caused
climate change is a bigger factor — but her belief for the
time being is that changes in solar radiation are likely to have a
bigger influence on temperature changes on Earth, not just during
times of solar minimum, but throughout history.
However,
this belief is in direct contrast with much literature on the
topic. Georg Feulner, deputy chair of the Earth system analysis
research domain at the Potsdam Institute on Climate Change Research,
co-authored a paper
in 2011 specifically
examining the effect a solar minimum might have on Earth’s climate.
His paper, and subsequent related research has concluded that
any solar-related temperature drops would be far outweighed by
human-caused global warming. In the case of a solar minimum, such as
the one predicted by Zharkova and colleagues, “The expected
decrease in global temperature would be 0.1°C at most, compared to
about 1.3°C warming since pre-industrial times by the year 2030,”
Feulner wrote in an e-mail to the Post.
Complicating
the matter further is the idea that
the 17th century’s “little ice age” wasn’t even really the
result of the solar minimum going on at the time. Feulner also
authored another 2011
paper that
concluded that volcanic activity was the major cause of a cooler
climate during this time, rather than solar variations. The takeaway
is that changes in solar radiation are unlikely to hold a candle to
the climatic effects being brought about by human-related greenhouse
gas emissions.
While
Zharkova is one of a small minority of scientists who do not fully
accept human activities as the greatest drivers of current climate
change, she says she’s surprised at the media response her
study has garnered. “I didn’t realize there would be such a
strong response from the climate people,” she says, adding that she
would need to repeat the calculations of mainstream climate
scientists and examine the evidence herself to decide if she can
accept their point that anthropogenic influences outweigh those of
the sun.
So there
may well be a solar minimum in store for the near future — but
it’s still probably safe to put your scarves and mittens back
in storage for now. Research in the area suggests that
greenhouse gas-related warming, not solar variations, will be the
dominant climate factor for many years to come.
Still,
Zharkova cautions, there’s not much time left until her predicted
solar minimum hits. “We have only 15 years to wait, so we’ll
learn soon enough,” she says.
My BS meter went up at this story and I looked at the original study - It did NOT mention a 'mini Ice age' - that was conjured up by the idiot mainstream media. Here in NZ Paul Henry (climate change denier) was so happy at the news he could hardly contain himself. Unfortunately for him the whole thing was discredited today on his show - making him look even more of an idiot than he usually does.
ReplyDeleteI noticed that Valentina Zharkova is not a climatologists and that she happens to be one of the rapidly shrinking group of scientist who stick to the belief that the sun's magnetic cycles have a far greater influence than Anthropogenic Climate Disruption (ACD) effects.
ReplyDeleteFor many people, their general worldview blinds them to the reality of the situation. For many people with offspring, they can't accept the near-term collapse predictions. They have too much invested in the future to see what is happening. Denial is a natural human protective mechanism that often manifest itself in the form of cognitive dissonance beliefs. Most of the Earth's 7.24+ billion homo sapiens inhabitants are living in a profound state of denial regarding the gravity of impact of the current ACD. If all your dreams and aspirations are threatened this sort of behavior is expected. Look around and notice that people are continuing to bare offspring at rates that differ little from the recent past. A great many of them are highly educated and claim they understand the threat posed by ACD.
Humans are deeply infused with a strong sense of superiority over other creatures on this planet. Despite increasing evidence that we are entering into a 6th mass extinction event we will continue to point our fingers at others as we attempt to prevail in a collapsing planetary life support system. In the process we will end up taking tens-of-millions of other species along with us to oblivion.
This is just a taste of the truth!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIayxqk0Ees
You might want to checkout some of the data they reference in this one as well!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?t=86&v=7whL9jvdL5s