WikiLeaks'
Assange: 'A 14-year-old kid could have hacked Podesta' emails
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January, 2017
WikiLeaks
founder Julian Assange told Fox News' Sean Hannity in an exclusive
interview that a teenager could have hacked into Hillary Clinton
campaign chairman John Podesta's computer and retrieved damaging
email messages that the website published during last year's election
campaign.
"We
published several ... emails which show Podesta responding to a
phishing email," Assange said during the first part of the
interview, which aired on "Hannity" Tuesday night. "Podesta
gave out that his password was the word ‘password’. His own staff
said this email that you’ve received, this is totally legitimate.
So, this is something ... a 14-year-old kid could have hacked Podesta
that way."
Assange
also claimed that Clinton herself made "almost no attempt"
to keep her private emails safe from potentially hostile states
during her tenure as secretary of state.
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"Now,
was she trying to keep them secure from Republicans? Probably,"
Assange said. "But in terms of [nation-] states, almost no
attempt."
Hannity
interviewed Assange at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London. The
Australia native has been holed up there for five years battling
extradition to Sweden on sexual assault charges, which Assange
denies.
WikiLeaks
published more than 50,000 emails detailing dubious practices at the
Clinton Foundation, top journalists working closely with the Clinton
campaign, key Clinton aides speaking derisively of Catholics and a
top Democratic National Committee (DNC) official providing debate
questions to Clinton in advance.
WikiLeaks founder speaks
out in an exclusive 'Hannity' interview
Assange
has repeatedly denied claims by the Obama administration that Russia
was behind the cyberattacks that exposed the DNC and Podesta emails.
Assange also has repeatedly insisted that WikiLeaks' source for the
emails was not the Russian government or any "state party,"
and said the outgoing administration was attempting to "delegitimize"
President-Elect Donald Trump by making those claims.
In
the first part of the interview, Assange criticized a Dec. 29 joint
analysis of the cyberattacks by the FBI and Department of Homeland
Security. After the report was released, President Barack Obama
expelled 35 Russian diplomats and closed two Russian compounds.
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"On
the top [of the report], there is a disclaimer, saying … there is
no guarantee that any of this information is accurate," Assange
told Hannity. "There’s nothing in that report that says that
any information was given to us. Nothing."
Assange
also criticized the mainstream media for what he called the "ethical
corruption" displayed in the Podesta emails.
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WikiLeaks founder says his agenda is to expose the truth
"The
editor of the New York Times ... has come out and said that he would
do the same thing as WikiLeaks, [that] if they had obtained that
information, they would have published it," Assange said. "Now,
unfortunately, I don’t believe that is true."
Assange
added that he doubted that partisan sympathy explained the cozy
relationship between Podesta and reporters covering the Clinton
campaign.
"It’s
more like, ‘You rub my back, I’ll rub yours. I’ll give you
information, you’ll come to my – I’ll invite you to my child’s
christening or my next big party.’"
Assange
said that the website would not have hesitated to publish
embarrassing information about Trump if they had received it.
"There’s
no sources coming out through other journalists … and saying, 'We
gave WikiLeaks all this information about Donald Trump or …
Vladimir Putin and you know what? They didn’t publish it.' No one
has come out and said that," Assange said. "If they did,
that would hurt our reputation for trust for our sources."
The
WikiLeaks founder also warned Democrats that criticizing the website
for publishing the emails was a "stupid maneuver."
"It’s
the same reason why they lost the election, which is instead of
focusing on substance, they focused on other things [like] this
attempt to say how outrageous it is that the American public received
true information before an election," Assange said. "The
public doesn’t buy that. They want as much true information as
possible."
In
an extended interview with Sean Hannity, Julian Assange reveals that
the source of his information of the Democrats was not Russia nor any
state actor.
In
an extensive interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News, Julian Assange
said unequivocally that the Wikileaks source for the DNC email leaks
was not Russia nor a state actor. In keeping with the Wikileaks
tradition of never disclosing a specific source, Assange refused to
elaborate further. Others, however, including former British
diplomat Craig Murray, have said that the source was someone in the
United States with easy access to the leaked information.
Many
have suspected that the source is Seth Rich, a former DNC worker who
was murdered in mysterious circumstances in July of 2016.
When
asked why Obama has used the ‘Russian hacker’ narrative to
justify the expulsion of Russian diplomats, their families and other
embassy and councilor workers like chefs, Assange said that Obama is
‘playing games’ and ‘acting like a lawyer instead of being
honest’. The implication here is that Obama himself doesn’t
believe the lies but is simply stretching the narrative to the safest
possible brink of credulity.
Assange
also denied having ever spoken to President Putin, President-elect
Trump nor Roger Stone, the outspoken former Trump assistant and
flamboyant Donald Trump supporter.
Interestingly,
the interview contained rare moments of personal contrition from
Assange and Hannity, two men not known for backing down. Sean Hannity
admitted that in 2010 he accused Wikileaks of putting American lives
in danger by exposing US war crimes in Iraq (Hannity didn’t use the
term war crimes, but that is in fact what Wikileaks exposed).
Hannity
went on to state that his erstwhile dislike of Wikileaks had
transformed into a deep sense of respect. He said in an
un-characteristically trembling voice that Wikileaks performed an
important service to American democracy by first of all,
demonstrating how weak America’s cyber-security is and moreover, by
exposing that corruption in parts of the American political system is
far more severe than even an arch-conservative (in the past something
of a neocon) like Hannity could have previously imagined.
Assange
responded to a question about whether Wikileaks has ever endangered
lives by stating the three things about Wikileaks which Assange is
most proud of. First of all, Assange stated that he was proud
Wikileaks never had to publish a retraction or apology. Second, he
was proud never to have revealed a source and finally that not a
single Wikileaks publication has been linked to the physical harm of
any person.
Assange
for his part, who prior to the election, crudely compared the choice
between Hillary and The Donald between that of ‘syphilis and
gonorrhea’, now seems to be willing to give Trump a chance. He
certainly must be embarrassed about his false prediction that Trump
would never be allowed to win.
This
interview demonstrates how much has changed in American and global
political discourse since Trump’s victory. Conservatives like Sean
Hannity have gone from critics of Wikileaks to admirers and renegade
freedom fighting journalists like Julian Assange have gone from
dismissing Trump as a mere lesser of two evils, to someone who may
just challenge the very establishment that Assange has challenged for
so long.
Hannity
furthermore seems to have become less of a neocon and more of a
traditional conservative. It is a welcome change, to say the least.
To
paraphrase recent Nobel Prize winner Bob Dylan, ‘you don’t need a
Russian hacker to know which way the wind blows’.
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