Monday 9 February 2015

Ukrainian war dead

For comparison, estimates of deaths in the Syrian Civil War, per opposition activist groups, vary between 129,230 and 295,060. On 15 January 2015, the United Nations put out an estimate of 220,000 that had died in the war.


German intelligence: the death toll in Ukraine is 50 thousand


8 February, 2014


MOSCOW, 8 Feb - RIA Novosti. German intelligence agencies estimate the likely death toll in the ongoing military conflict in the East of Ukraine at 50 thousand people, which is almost ten times higher than the official data from Kiev, said a source in the intelligence services of Germany.

"Official figures are too low and not credible," - reported the Sunday newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, citing a source in German intelligence.

According to the latest official data of Kiev, the death toll is 1200 military and 5400 civilians. These figures were voiced by the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, speaking on February 7 at the Munich security conference. In turn, the security sources claim that the data of the Kiev authorities is one-sided, for example, after heavy fighting often not more than about ten victims were reported, although in fact the losses were much higher.

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20150208/1046536246.html#ixzz3RAfXFf9k
Kristina Rus: 

Of course German intelligence knew the truth all along, but why spill it now? A. - either it is a leak, or B. - judging by the timing this a tool to cool heads in Ukraine, back off, sit down and talk to the "rebels", to salvage whatever is left of Ukraine. 


On the other hand, it may backfire and shake the boat even more, exposing Poroshenko was lying all along.

Here is the original report in German



Nach offiziellen Angaben hat der Krieg im Osten der Ukraine bislang 1200 Soldaten und 5400 Zivilisten das Leben gekostet. Deutsche Sicherheitskreise glauben aber: Es dürften fast zehn Mal so viele sein.

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