I never expect to see that people agree about everything but when it comes to talking about climate change I do not expect people to agree that we only have a very short period left on the planet although I have been persuaded by the evidence provided by people I have come to trust.
When
I started to research this I looked in vain for any mention of
methane. I quickly came to realise that the norm (rather than the
exception) was for the actual science to be fudged,misrepresented and
even lied about
Those
I have had contact use
their authority to lay down the law and talk about what “Science”
says (as if it was the Catholic church with its religious dogma
instead of a method of inquiry) to basically deny that things are any
bit as bad of what they actually are.
Foremost
among these people is Michael Mann who now seems to be denying his
own hockey stick hypothesis When I listen to him he sounds to me to
be a Demcratic Party operative than a research scientist who is using
his considerable authority to mislead rather than inform.
What
follows is a collection of material from Mann to ilustrate this.
Irony of Inaction - With "Honest" Michael E Mann
Here is Kevin Hester's take on this
Total Lack Of Urgency in Dealing with Climate Emergency
KevinHester Live,
May
11, 2016
‘Our
climate change emergency is gaining momentum at a non linear,
exponential pace, with the massive bleaching event unfolding on the
Great Barrier Reef and the extraordinary fires burning in Alberta
which have precipitated the evacuation of 80,000 + people from Fort
McMurray, two of the latest ” Canary’s in the coal mine”.
There
are no shortage of indicators that we have entered the dangerous
phase of the great unraveling of our biosphere, when we are at
approximately 1.5 degrees c above baseline tracking to and beyond the
IPCC worst case scenario of 6C which incidentally will be
unsurvivable for most if not all complex life on this planet. So much
for 2C being the safe limit.
In
the link below, renowned climate scientist Michael E Mann, the co
author of the Hockey Stick Theory discusses the fires and the
bleaching event on the GBR in incredibly measure tones,which I have
personally dived extensively over an 800 mile sail after crossing
the Coral sea and sailing down the reef from north of Cairns to
Brisbane. I detect no hint of an emergency
It
takes about 15 years for a reef to recover from a bleaching event but
it also requires the symptoms to abate first. The primary drivers
of this latest and third bleaching event in the last 100 yrs, all of
which have happened in the last 8 yrs is carbonate saturation and
warming waters.
Much
of the blame has been attributed to the recent record El Nino which
has undoubtedly been a factor but the overall causation is a
combination of circumstances that are not going away and are in fact
increasing.
I
don’t casually criticise a scientist of Michael Mann’s calibre
but as a yacht skipper I always default to the precautionary
principle which is to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
The
tone of the delivery of this information in no way conveys a
planetary emergency which we are patently witnessing unraveling
before our very eyes.
Climate scientists tend to be specialists in their field which can involve a narrow depth of experience which leaves them unable to extrapolate the overall consequences of simple ( sic) ice melt and sea level rise.
Climate scientists tend to be specialists in their field which can involve a narrow depth of experience which leaves them unable to extrapolate the overall consequences of simple ( sic) ice melt and sea level rise.
Conservation
biologist Professor Guy McPherson, who will be coming back to NZ
again in November to discuss our predicament, who has been studying
climate change for over three decades believes that the combination
of rising temperatures driven by our crack like addiction to carbon
is driving us to extinction alongside the other 150 to 200 species
that are going extinct very day on our beleaguered planet.
Here
is a recent podcast with Guy McPherson speaking about species
extinction from the 21:40minute mark here, ‘
Rising Up With Sonali – May 4, 2016‘
Rising Up With Sonali – May 4, 2016‘
Professor
McPherson and myself believe we are in runaway abrupt climate change
leading to near term human extinction in the not to distant future.
Mike Mann doesn’t seem particularly worried.
As I wrote here on the Collapse Of The Oceanic Reef Systems, you can decide for yourselves whose right and prepare accordingly.
As I wrote here on the Collapse Of The Oceanic Reef Systems, you can decide for yourselves whose right and prepare accordingly.
As
Thom Hartman says: ‘Dr.
Michael Mann, Earth System Science Center-Penn State University/Dire
Predictions: Understanding Climate Change (2nd edition) joins Thom.
The oceans are literally starving now. Plus the Fires in Canada –
Is this a preview of what the future will look like if we don’t do
something right now to stop climate change?‘
Further shared here, with video: ‘Dr.
Michael Mann on Dying Oceans & Intense Fires‘.
This Guradian article from this week represents another attack on Guy McPherson whose citation of the scientific literature is unimpeachable.
Evidence does not seem to enter into the equation at any point Instead what is needed is positive emotion and the facts made to fit.
Can someone tell me what-the-fuck this is supposed to mean?
"Rather than treat emotions as levers to be pulled, they should be seen as part of a dynamic interplay"
Lucia
Graves
There’s
a debate in climate circles about whether you should try to scare the
living daylights out of people, or give them hope – think images of
starving polar bears on melting ice caps on the one hand, and happy
families on their bikes lined with flowers and solar-powered lights
on the other.
The
debate came to something of a head this year, after David
Wallace-Wells lit up the internet with his 7,000-word, worst-case
scenario published in New York magazine. It went viral almost
instantly, and soon was the best-read story in the magazine’s
history. A writer in Slate called it “the Silent Spring of our
time”. But it also garnered tremendous criticism and from more than
the usual denier set.
Beyond
quibbles with the science, critics including the illustrious climate
scientist Michael Mann took issue with the piece’s “doomist
framing” because, as he wrote at the time, there’s “a danger in
overstating the science in a way that presents the problem as
unsolvable, and feeds a sense of doom, inevitability and
hopelessness”.
But
others say scaring people is the only way to make them care. Perhaps
the most famous purveyor of climate scare tactics is Guy McPherson.
Described by the New York Times as an “apocalyptic ecologist”,
McPherson’s doomsday theory of “near-term extinction” has
attracted something of a following. McPherson wrote on his website,
which includes links to suicide hotlines, that the David
Wallace-Wells piece “largely captures my message”.
Both
sides are wrong, from a psychological standpoint. Emotions are
complicated and can vary tremendously from person to person. Trying
to crudely manipulate them doesn’t work.
That’s
the conclusion from behavioral scientists at the University of
Massachusetts-Amherst, Daniel Chapman, Brian Lickel and Ezra
Markowitz, who, in a recent paper published in Nature Climate Change,
seek to bring the lessons of psychology to bear on communicating the
importance climate change.
To
attempt to either scare or inspire people “simultaneously
oversimplifies the rich base of research on emotion while
overcomplicating the very real communications challenge advocates
face by demanding that each message have the right ‘emotional
recipe’ to maximize effectiveness”, they write.
Climate
experts, after all, are not experts on human behavior and the people
who are say there are better ways to communicate the climate problem.
Rather than treat emotions as levers to be pulled for a desired
effect, they should be seen as part of a dynamic interplay among
factors that shape our behavior, exquisitely specific to the human
being inhabiting them.
What’s
more, since the vast majority of us are not very good at getting
people to feel the way we want them to based on the words coming out
of our mouths alone, the best approach, it would seem, is one of
humility – that is, to spend more time listening, and also, to know
our own limits.
“Practitioners
in different fields have varying perspectives on the issue,”
Chapman told me. “In general, I think we need researchers and
practitioners attending in an honest way to what research does and
does not tell us about how to engage the public with climate change.”
For
those intent on communicating climate change in psychologically adept
ways, there are some takeaways from the science.
For
instance, though we’ve been conditioned to think of anger as an
undesirable emotion, research has shown it to be an important emotion
for motivating action in the face of social injustice. And the
pairing of certain feelings, like fear and efficacy, can be helpful
too.
Like
a patient who’s given both a diagnosis and a course of treatment,
people respond better to risks when given both a reason and a way to
act. In this sense, it seems the hope and fear camps of the climate
debate are each seeing only part of the puzzle.
But
even in places where the science is relatively strong, researchers
caution against simplistic applications. Rote formulas like “three
parts hope to one part scary” won’t translate from one person to
another. Indeed, to use such information responsibly requires, if not
some level of sophistication, then at least considerable forethought,
as well as a concerted, ongoing effort to meet people where they are.
That
means, above all, knowing your audience and what’s relevant to
them. Are they considering chopping down a nearby forest or putting
their houses up on stilts? Do they need to rebuild or relocate?
Parsing people’s needs and sensitivities is critical in any form of
communication, but particularly when it comes to talking about
climate science, with its great technical complexity, profound
personal impact, and tremendous political polarization.
Above
all, it means remembering that climate change is a very big story. It
isn’t monolithic, and communication of it looks like many things –
be it climate scientists talking to lay-people or Leonardo DiCaprio
making a movie.
The
overwhelming problem in climate communication, after all, isn’t how
it’s talked about so much as whether it’s being talked about at
all. A 2016 report from Yale’s programme on climate communication
found one in four Americans say they “never” hear someone
discussing it.
Thank you, especially liked the quote 'people respond better to risks when given both a reason and a way to act'. Of the three 'F's, fight/flight/freeze, we need to get as much 'fight' as we can. 'Ways to act' are essential.
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