Thursday 5 November 2015

Panic stations: UK and US have decided Russian jet brought down by ISIS bomb

Never mind what the Egyptians or the Russians have to say - lol. The Americans and the Brits have decided so it's panic stations.

No 10: 'Explosive Device' May Have Downed Plane

Hundreds of Britons see flights from Sharm to the UK delayed as the Government raises fresh concerns over the Egypt jet crash.


26 November, 2014

A Russian jet that crashed in Egypt "may well have been brought down by an explosive device", Downing Street has said.

The Metrojet plane, which was travelling from Sharm el Sheikh to the Russian city of St Petersburg, crashed in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula on Saturday, killing all 224 people on board.

The nature of the crash and the lack of an SOS have led to speculation that the jet was brought down by a bomb or a missile.


Egypt Plane Crash: What We Know So Far

The UK Government said in a statement that while it cannot "categorically" say why the plane crashed, "as more information has come to light we have become concerned that the plane may well have been brought down by an explosive device".

As a result, a spokeswoman said all flights due to leave Sharm el Sheikh for Britain this evening will be delayed as a "precautionary measure" to allow a team of UK experts to assess what security arrangements are in place at the airport.

It is believed up to 20,000 Britons are in the Sharm el Sheikh area - hundreds are affected by the delays.

A security source has told Sky's Defence Correspondent Alistair Bunkall that the intelligence that prompted the Government to take this decision was not based on the wreckage of the plane.

It came on the day a source close to the Egyptian team investigating the black boxes said an explosion was looking more likely, but it is unclear whether it was linked to fuel, engine trouble or a bomb.

A Russian aviation source told the news agency two possibilities are now being considered - something stowed inside the jet and a technical fault.

Egypt's Aviation Ministry has confirmed the cockpit voice recorder from the plane is "partially damaged" and "a lot of work is required in order to extract data from it".

Islamic State again claimed responsibility for downing the plane on Wednesday, saying it would eventually tell the world how it carried out the attack.

David Cameron chaired a meeting of the Government's COBRA emergency committee on Wednesday evening to review the situation in Sharm el Sheikh, having already spoken to Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al Sisi, who is in London on a previously scheduled visit.

The security assessment at the airport is expected to be completed tonight, the Number 10 spokeswoman said, adding there were no more departures from the UK to Sharm el Sheikh on Wednesday and that they are working closely with airlines.

Among the Britons affected by the delays is tourist Mark Herbert, whose Thomson flight was about to take off from Sharm to Manchester when the captain said everyone had to get off the plane.

He told Sky News security at the airport was "stricter" than on previous trips, and added: "It's inconvenient but I'd rather be safe."

A Thomson flight to Manchester was set to take off at 6.35pm local time, according to the website of Sharm el Sheikh airport.

Two easyJet flights were also due to depart the resort's airport, one to Luton at 6.45pm another to Gatwick at 7.05pm.

Around 330 easyJet passengers are affected, and they are being put up in local hotels.

Ireland's aviation authority has told airlines not to operate to or from Sharm or over the Sinai Peninsula until further notice.

The deputy head of the airport has said Britain has acted too hastily in deciding to suspend flights to Sharm el Sheikh.

Hany Ramsay said: "Other countries might soon follow them. They want to hurt tourism and cause confusion."





Russian plane crash: U.S. intel suggests ISIS bomb brought down jet





CNN,
4 November, 2015


Days after authorities dismissed claims that ISIS brought down a Russian passenger jet, a U.S. intelligence analysis now suggests that the terror group or its affiliates planted a bomb on the plane.

And the office of British Prime Minister David Cameron says the plane "may well have been brought down by an explosive device."Metrojet Flight 9268 crashed Saturday in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula after breaking apart in midair, killing all 224 people on board. It was en route to St. Petersburg from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.

The latest U.S. intelligence suggests that the plane crash was most likely caused by a bomb on the plane planted by ISIS or an ISIS affiliate, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter.

"There is a definite feeling it was an explosive device planted in luggage or somewhere on the plane," the official said, stressing that no formal conclusion had been reached by the U.S. intelligence community.

The assessment was reached, the official said, by looking back at intelligence reports that had been gathered before Saturday's plane crash and intelligence gathered since then. The United States did not have credible or verified intelligence of a specific threat before the crash. However, the official said, "there had been additional activity in Sinai that had caught our attention."

Another U.S. official said the intelligence regarding ISIS is in part based on monitoring of internal messages of the terrorist group. Those messages are separate from public ISIS claims of responsibility, that official said.

Britain, Ireland suspend flights from Egyptian resort city
News of the U.S. intelligence analysis comes hours after British Prime Minister David Cameron's office said a bomb might have caused the crash.

"While the investigation is still ongoing, we cannot say categorically why the Russian jet crashed," the Prime Minister's office said. "But as more information has come to light, we have become concerned that the plane may well have been brought down by an explosive device."

Flights due to leave Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, for the United Kingdom were being delayed his office said, as a precautionary measure to allow British aviation experts to assess security arrangements at the city's airport, Cameron's office said in its statement.

Ireland also said Wednesday that it was suspending all flights to and from Sharm el-Sheikh until further notice, according to a statement from the Irish Aviation Authority.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry called the British decision to suspend flights "somewhat premature," as the investigation is not complete.

"We can appreciate, of course, the sense of responsibility and desire to provide protection to UK citizens. This is a desire that we equally share," he told CNN shortly after the British government's announcement. "But I think it is somewhat premature to make declarations related to what might or might not have happened to the aircraft before the investigation is completed and before there is a definitive cause for this crash."

Militant battleground

Sharm el-Sheikh, where Flight 9268 began its journey, is a beach resort dotted with palm trees at the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula. The plane crashed about 300 kilometers (185 miles) farther north, near a town called Housna, according to Egyptian authorities.

Sinai has been a battleground between ISIS-affiliated militants and Egyptian security forces in recent years. Hundreds have died in the fighting.

The militants appeared to claim responsibility for bringing down the Russian passenger jet in a statement posted online Saturday, but officials in Egypt and Russia have disputed that claim, saying there's no evidence to support it.

ISIS in Sinai is one of the most active of all the ISIS affiliates and has bomb-making capabilities, according to U.S. intelligence. But if the group did plant a bomb on the plane, it would represent an increase in sophistication.

The officials say ISIS has not proved to be nearly as advanced with bomb-making capabilities as al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, a group that U.S. national security officials believed were working on nonmetallic bombs to be smuggled onto planes.

Egypt's Interior Ministry said it wasn't stepping up security in Sharm el-Sheikh or at the resort city's airport "because there is no indication (the plane crash) was a terrorist operation."

But the U.S. Embassy in Cairo has sent a security message to its employees, instructing them not to travel anywhere in Sinai pending the outcome of the crash investigation.


State Department grilled over Russia plane crash


Note the official version of this was  made "private"



From the Guardian




Flights between UK and Sharm el-Sheikh suspended as British foreign secretary says there is ‘strong possibility’ plane was brought down by onboard explosion

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