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EXCLUSIVE: Jill Stein Tells Sputnik About Vote Recount Campaign
EXCLUSIVE: Jill Stein Tells Sputnik About Vote Recount Campaign
24
November, 2016
Jill
Stein, the Green Party's candidate in the 2016 US presidential race,
has raised over $3.7 million in just over a day in an effort to force
a vote recount in the key battleground states of Wisconsin, Michigan
and Pennsylvania. Speaking to Sputnik, Dr. Stein offered details
about the motivations behind her effort.
On Wednesday, the Stein campaign announced that it had begun raising funds for the three state recount in what it said was a "multi-partisan effort to check the accuracy of the machine-counted vote tallies in these states in order to ensure the integrity of our elections."
On Wednesday, the Stein campaign announced that it had begun raising funds for the three state recount in what it said was a "multi-partisan effort to check the accuracy of the machine-counted vote tallies in these states in order to ensure the integrity of our elections."
Stein
cited a host of concerns brought to her by voters,
computer scientists, and voting systems professionals as the
reason for filing for the recount. Her announcement follows
on recent reporting that the Clinton campaign was also
considering filing similar hand-count recounts and forensic analyses
of electronic voting in the same states.
Stein's
online campaign has spread like wildfire, and has already raised
well over the $2.2 million formally needed to file for a
recount in the three key states ahead of deadlines
on November 25, 28 and 30. Other costs associated with the
recount, including attorney's fees and statewide recount observers
are expected to run anywhere from $6-7 million. Accordingly,
Stein's campaign is asking for at least $4.5 million, having
already raised $3.7 million as of 2 pm EST.
That
figure officially surpasses the $3.509 million the Green Party
candidate raised during her presidential run. Stein received
1.39 million votes, or just over 1% of the popular vote,
in the election held earlier this month.
Speaking
to Brad Friedman, host of Radio Sputnik's Bradcast, Stein
offered details about what it was she was trying to accomplish
with her initiative.
Simply
put, she said that the recount effort is meant to assure voters
that their votes were accounted for and counted accurately. "We
have to move really fast in order to basically verify
the vote and be confident our votes were actually counted, that they
weren't flipped or stripped and that we have a system of elections
we can believe in," the candidate explained.
Stein
said that her "interest as a citizen, as a person
in America, that the vote be valid," is what's driving the
effort from her end. "Why would anyone in their right
mind not want to have secure and verified vote? In a very
vicious, hotly contested election that used hack-friendly voting
machines, in a hack-riddled election, we deserve some confidence
in the outcome of this election," she said.
"I'm
responding to a [group] of people…observers and
advocates, both experts and just ordinary citizens, who feel
like this is unacceptable and that these machines as a
baseline is not the way we should be voting."
"Then
there are allegations of voting irregularities that I cannot
testify to myself – as I understand these are rather
debatable grey zones at this point. But I think there is plenty
of evidence to say that we deserve confidence in our
voting system," she added.
Analysts
Stein stressed that it's actually an "outrage we have to go
to extraordinary lengths to verify the vote."
"This
is something we shouldn't have to ask a recount for. We
shouldn't have to spend a million dollars in Wisconsin
alone in order to be confident of our vote. The
tragedy is that this is not built into our voting system –
that 25% of Americans vote on these electronic machines
that have no paper record whatsoever. This is really a mockery
of democracy – one of many incredible vulnerabilities
of our democracy and our elections."
Ultimately,
Stein suggested that "if ever there was a time to stand
up and demand an accountable and secure vote, this is the time
to do it. If we don't do it now, when exactly – what would be
the cause to do it?"
Stein
noted that "it feels really good to be standing up right
now and to be surrounded by so many people who say that
it's time for us to take control of our democracy,
to use the resources that we have right now to stand up –
to give ourselves a gift on this Thanksgiving and have
something to be thankful for…"
The
Green Party plans to hold a conference in Washington, DC
in February devoted to the 2016 election, including the
concepts and issues of verified voting, rank choice voting, the
Electoral College and opening up the debates to more
independent candidates.
Election
Fraud? Donald Trump’s win questioned, Jill Stein’s Green Party
raises cash for ‘recount’
24
November, 2016
The
Green Party in the United States is demanding a recount of votes in
three key states that could potentially affect the outcome of the
election that saw Donald Trump chosen as president.
The
party was able to raise $2.5
million needed to at least pay for the recount in Wisconsin in less
than 12 hours from the time the Greens’ intentions were reported by
the media on Wednesday.
Jill
Stein, leader of the party that received less than 1% of the national
vote, said in
a press release that the Greens wanted the recount “because
reported hacks into voter and party databases and individual email
accounts are causing many Americans to wonder if our election results
are reliable.”
The
Party wants recounts in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan–the
three states that determined the result of the 2016 race. The
deadline to file for a recount is Friday in Wisconsin, Monday in
Pennsylvania and Wednesday in Michigan.
The
cost of the Wisconsin recount is $1.1 million, according to the Green
Party press release.
The release does not say what the cost for all three recounts is, but
the party initially sought $2.5 million. That was widely reported as
the total amount needed. But once that goal was reached, the target
was jacked up to $4.5million.
The
party’s home page appeal for
money says the entire cost with legal fees could be $6 million to $7
million. This statement also includes a quote from Stein that blames
“foreign agents” for hacking into “party databases, private
email servers, and voter databases in certain states.” Her quote in
the press release removes
the words “foreign agents.”
Slim Margins
Trump
narrowly beat Democratic contender Hillary Clinton in Wisconsin and
Pennsylvania and is leading in Michigan, which more than two weeks
later is still too close to call. Just a 55,000 vote swing is all
that is needed in the three states to flip the election to Clinton.
On
Tuesday it was reported that
a group of U.S. professors–computer scientists and elections
lawyers–had held a conference call with the Clinton campaign to ask
it to file for an audit in the three states. They said that actual
results differed from exit polls and that Trump had done considerably
better in areas where electronic voting machines were used. Clinton
excelled where paper ballots were used.
Some
experts explained that
electronic machines were used in rural areas, which were stronger for
Trump, while paper ballots were used in urban areas largely backing
Clinton.
The
academics lobbying the Clinton campaign have suggested that a foreign
government may be behind the hacks. The Obama administration had said
before the election that Russia was trying to influence the election
through hacking, though no evidence was made public.
In
his final testimony to Congress last week, outgoing Director of
National Intelligence James Clapper admitted that
there was no proof about who was behind the supposed hacks.
The
Clinton campaign has made no statement. But many Clinton supporters
have backed the effort online. The Trump transition team has made no
comment.
Just
before the election I speculated here that
if Clinton should lose a close election she would cry Russian
interference and try to convince the electoral college to flip their
votes to her.
Trump
won the electoral college vote 290 to 232, with Michigan’s 16
electoral votes still outstanding. 270 votes are needed to win.
Clinton won the national popular vote by about 2 million votes.
There
is a campaign to get electors from states that voted for Trump to
change their vote for Clinton. Twenty-four states do not legally bind
electors to vote with the popular will of their states. The electors
will vote in their state capitals on December 19. The Congress will
certify the election on January 6.
The
Green’s Motive
The
move by the Greens raises many questions. At face value, they say
that the integrity of the electoral system is the only thing at
stake. But the Greens must know that the recount effort could only
help Clinton and hurt Trump.
Is
there some collusion between the Democratic Party and the Greens? Are
they a Trojan horse for Clinton who can stay above the fray while
getting the recount? Have wealthy Clinton donors been behind the
flood of cash into the effort in so short a time? Or are the Greens
sincere in wanting voting irregularities exposed?
One
theory is that the recount will expose cheating by both the
Republicans and Democrats, which is why the Clinton team has remained
silent.
Why
does one Stein quote mention “foreign agents” while another
doesn’t, given that even Clapper has distanced himself from that
charge and the Greens have never blamed a foreign power before?
We
might never find out the Greens’ real motive. But real drama may
soon re-enter the 2016 Election Campaign.
Paul Joseph Watson says "we won - get over it!"
Trump
Wins Michigan by 10,704 Votes
24
November, 2016
Republican
President-elect Donald Trump defeated Democratic rival Hillary
Clinton by 10,704 votes in the state of Michigan, according to
certified unofficial county-by-county results released on Wednesday
by the Michigan secretary of state.
Trump
received 2,279,543 votes compared with Clinton's 2,268,839, according
to figures posted on the secretary of state's website. Libertarian
candidate Gary Johnson received 172,136 votes and Green candidate
Jill Stein won 51,463.
Nine
other candidates shared a total of nearly 30,000 additional votes in
the presidential campaign in Michigan, the figures showed. The
results will remain unofficial until they are reviewed and approved
by the Board of State Canvassers on Nov. 28.
Some
media organizations did not call a winner of the presidential race in
Michigan on election night because of the closeness of the race.
Michigan is the last state where the winner was not yet clear.
The
final unofficial tally gave Trump a slightly narrower victory than
previous counts. A count as of Nov. 15 reported by CNN, for example,
showed Trump winning 2,279,805 votes and Clinton winning 2,268,193, a
margin of 11,612 votes.
If
Trump is declared the winner in Michigan, he will have accumulated
306 electoral votes to Clinton's 232.
Clinton
is leading in the popular vote by more than 2 million, according to
the Cook Political Report.
Electronic voting machines are an invitation for monkey business. We Americans are idiots for tolerating them.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if this effort will result in flipping the election, but if they do, I'm gonna be scared to go outside. It will be civil war #2.
I totally agree with your contention that there will be big trouble if this election is reversed. Angry people with guns is a dangerous situation.
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