It is difficult to follow events -but it is amazing to see Russian media pushing the line of the Ukrainian 'ceasefire' 'holding' when clearly it isn't. It is amazing to see the Guardian to acknowledge, where a few short weeks ago they didn't even acknowledge a civil war was being fought, that not only is the DNR real, but they are winning!
There is no doubt that the real revolution occured, not on the Maidan in Kiev, but in Donetsk and Lugansk.
Putin is a deep conservative and upholder of the status quo and so is viscerally opposed to any revolution. It is said that the Kremlin insisted on the sacking of Strelkov. So Putin is negotiating a peace that gives wiggle room to the Kiev regime at a time when the rebels are winning.
It gives one pause to think.
In the meantime, Washington and NATO have their own agenda to promote chaos and mayhem and prevent peace and Kiev pretends that Russian has invaded to hide the disastrous military defeat.
Ukraine ceasefire holds for shaky peace to last
There is no doubt that the real revolution occured, not on the Maidan in Kiev, but in Donetsk and Lugansk.
Putin is a deep conservative and upholder of the status quo and so is viscerally opposed to any revolution. It is said that the Kremlin insisted on the sacking of Strelkov. So Putin is negotiating a peace that gives wiggle room to the Kiev regime at a time when the rebels are winning.
It gives one pause to think.
In the meantime, Washington and NATO have their own agenda to promote chaos and mayhem and prevent peace and Kiev pretends that Russian has invaded to hide the disastrous military defeat.
Ukraine ceasefire holds for shaky peace to last
The ceasefire between the Ukrainian army and self-defense forces is “still shaky, but holds,” the OSCE stated. The fighters are still skeptical of the peace process, but they are hoping for the war to end.
RT,
8
August, 2014
“People
who have never seen this think war is like TV. You watch and forget
because there’s some entertainment show later. Here, everything is
reality. Here, people are dying in front of your eyes,” one of the
fighters nicknamed Gvozd told RT.
RT’s
Paula Slier caught up with fighters in military barracks in eastern
Ukraine. Many came to fight for the anti-government forces as
volunteers, leaving their wives and children behind.
“Yesterday
we buried a friend. He was killed when a tank fired from a
hundred-meter distance. His nickname was electron, and the night
before the battle, we sat together and smoked in the trench. In the
morning, he died,” fighter Gvozd said.
War
is a brutal reality facing all the fighters, and they don’t see a
quick end to the violence and deaths – there have been too many.
“The
Ukrainian army… I am ashamed of their actions. We didn’t come to
western Ukraine and begin destroying what they built. They came to
our land,” another fighter, nicknamed Svarnoy, said.
Not
everyone, however, is desperate. A militiaman nicknamed Antonio said
that he believes the truce will hold.
For
more watch Paula Slier’s report
As
the truce holds shakily, the Kiev government accused the self-defense
forces of sporadic fighting in Mariupol overnight.
The
ceasefire came into effect on Friday evening, and is part of a peace
roadmap aimed at ending the bloody conflict, which has killed over
3,000 people during the last five months.
Part
of the peace plan calls for an exchange of prisoners of war and the
self-defense forces maintain the “all-for-all” exchange is going
to happen.
"Overall
the ceasefire held even though it is still shaky,"
Ambassador Thomas Greminger of Switzerland, the current chair of the
OSCE told Reuters, adding the next days would be crucial
Putin,
Poroshenko Discuss Ukrainian Crisis, Agree on Further Dialogue
8
September, 2014
MOSCOW,
September 8 (RIA Novosti) - Russian President Vladimir Putin and
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko discussed on Monday in a phone
call measures that could lead to a peaceful resolution of the ongoing
crisis in eastern Ukraine, the Kremlin said.
"Russian
President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko
continued the discussion of steps towards a peaceful settlement of
the situation in eastern Ukraine," the Kremlin press service
said in a statement.
"The
dialogue will continue," the statement said.
Kiev
has been carrying out a military operation against independence
supporters in the country’s South-East since mid-April. According
to the United Nations, the armed conflict has killed over 2,500 and
injured around 6,000 civilians.
On
September 3, Russian President Vladimir Putin outlined a seven-point
plan for the settlement of the crisis in Ukraine, calling on Kiev to
withdraw troops from the southeastern regions of the country and the
militia to cease military advances. The plan also included proposals
for an international monitoring force, the establishment of a
humanitarian corridor, a ban on the use of combat aircraft over urban
areas, an exchange of prisoners in an "all for all" formula
and direct repair-crew access to destroyed infrastructure in the
war-ravaged areas.
On
September 5, representatives of Kiev and the self-proclaimed
republics of Luhansk and Donetsk agreed to a ceasefire at the meeting
of the Contact Group on Ukrainian reconciliation in Minsk.
Isn't
it amazing! A few short weeks ago the DNR didn't exist and the
bombing were not occuring, according to western MSM. Now, the rebels
not exist – they are winning!
Donetsk's
pro-Russia rebels celebrate expelling 'fascist Ukrainian junta'
Amid
second world war commemoration, regions say they still plan to
declare independence despite ceasefire deal
8
Setember, 2014
With
jaunty pop numbers about "expelling the fascist junta",
rousing war poetry and – somewhat incongruously – a parade of
performing dogs, the leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's
Republic celebrated on Monday what they see as victory over Kiev.
Held
in the shadow of an austere second world war monument in central
Donetsk, the event was officially a celebration of the 71st
anniversary of the liberation of the Donbass region from Nazi
occupation. But the parallels with the current Ukrainian conflict,
where local leaders and Russian President Vladimir Putin have
compared the Ukrainian government to the Nazis, were not hard to
find.
The
self-proclaimed prime minister of the Donetsk People's Republic,
Alexander Zakharchenko, signed a peace deal in Minsk last Friday with
Ukraine's representative, former president Leonid Kuchma. The deal
included a ceasefire, an "all-for-all" prisoner exchange,
and increased autonomy for Donetsk and Luhansk regions, with the
implicit assumption that they would remain part of Ukraine.
After
the talks, however, Zakharchenko said the regions were still planning
to declare full independence, suggesting the region could become a
kind of "breakaway state" with Russian backing. In Donetsk,
which had come under heavy shelling in recent weeks as both the
rebels and the government forces fired into residential areas, the
rebels see the agreement as a victory, "freezing" the
conflict and forcing the Ukrainian government to negotiate with the
rebel leaders, whom it had previously dismissed as "terrorists".
Since
the ceasefire was signed, each side has accused the other of breaking
the truce, most notably in the port city of Mariupol, where Ukrainian
checkpoints have come under heavy artillery fire from the pro-Russian
side.
Zakharchenko,
speaking at the rally in Donetsk, said all Ukrainian forces must
leave the eastern regions, "or we will throw them out".
Kiev's forces lost a lot of ground in the two weeks before the
ceasefire, with evidence suggesting Russia sent reinforcements of
armour and soldiers over the border, something Moscow has vehemently
denied. But Ukrainian troops still control Donetsk airport and many
other key sites, leading to fears the fighting could resume at any
moment.
Alexander
Khryakov, a minister in the Donetsk government, told the Guardian
that a "real ceasefire" would only happen when Kiev was
fully defeated.
"Today
we are celebrating the liberation of the Donbass from fascism,"
he said. "And that is a battle that is still going on. The
ceasefire will come when there are no more fascists. And not just in
the Donbass but in Kiev as well."
Ukraine's
president Petro Poroshenko made a surprise visit on Monday to the
southern port city of Mariupol, which has come under heavy artillery
fire, after separatist fighters allegedly backed by Russian support
took the town of Novoazovsk, further along the coast and near the
border with Russia, a fortnight ago.
On
Saturday night, a day into the ceasefire, the edge of the city came
under fire and the Donetsk rebels wrote on their Twitter account that
they were "taking Mariupol", although they later said they
were reacting to provocations from the Ukrainian side and were
keeping the ceasefire. On Sunday, Ukrainian fighters claimed the
rebels had again shelled their positions on the outskirts of
Mariupol, leading to casualties, and that they had began to return
fire, although Monday was largely quiet.
Poroshenko,
who spoke to a crowd of steel workers in Mariupol, promised that the
pro-Russians would face a "crushing defeat" if they tried
to take the city, which would give the Donetsk rebels an outlet to
the sea.
"I
have ordered (the military) to secure the defence of Mariupol with
howitzers, multiple rocket launchers, tanks, anti-tank weapons and
air cover," said the Ukrainian president, dressed in
military-style fatigues. "Mariupol was, is and will be
Ukrainian."
A
number of fighters on the Ukrainian side have said in recent days
that Kiev needs the ceasefire to regroup, but will resume military
operations against the "occupying forces" at the first
possible opportunity.
In
Donetsk, there was anger and resolution among the 1,500-strong crowd
who had gathered at the rally.
"We
loved Ukraine until they started bombing us, now we can never go back
there," said Zinaida, a 58-year-old local. "They are
fascists and they have your support. We read that you have Scotland
wanting to secede there. Why don't you send your tanks there and
destroy them instead of sending them here? We will be part of Russia
now and will never go back to those fascists."
Donetsk,
a city of 1 million in peacetime, has come to resemble a ghost town
in recent weeks as more than half of the population have left, and
those who remain stay indoors. While the mood at the rally was
unanimous, many of those who want to remain part of Ukraine have left
the city. Last month, a rare pro-Ukrainian activist was captured by
rebel fighters and made to stand draped in a Ukrainian flag in a
central street while passers by threw insults and projectiles at her.
She was later released.
Poroshenko,
from Mariupol, said the rebels had agreed to release around 1,200
Ukrainian prisoners from captivity under the terms of the Minsk
agreement. There was no immediate confirmation of this from the rebel
side, nor any information about whether Kiev had freed the estimated
200 prisoners it had taken among rebel fighters.
And
for the Kiev propaganda version of events
President
Poroshenko Visits Mariupol: Ukrainian leader defies Russian army in
port city
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