The conservative press like the Telegraph is better than the Guardian. I feel the Guardian acts as the attack dog for Empire because it hates Putin because Putin doesn't (allegedly) like gays.
David
Cameron warns of 'appeasing Putin as we did Hitler'
British
dilemma over Russian president's actions in Ukraine likened to
conduct of Neville Chamberlain in 1930s Munich
2
September, 2014
David
Cameron has told European leaders that the west risks making similar
mistakes in appeasing Vladimir Putin over Ukraine as Britain and
France did with Adolf Hitler in the run-up to the second world war.
In
a heated debate about the crisis behind closed doors in Brussels on
Saturday, the prime minister told an EU summit that Putin had to be
stopped from seizing all of Ukraine, according to La Repubblica, the
Italian newspaper, which obtained details of the confidential
discussion.
Downing
Street declined to confirm the prime minister's remarks, but did not
contest the accuracy of the report.
Cameron
likened the west's dilemma with Putin to the infamous conduct of the
British prime minister, Neville Chamberlain, with Hitler in Munich in
1938, when Anglo-French appeasement encouraged the Nazi leader to
invade Poland the following year, sparking the second world war.
"We
run the risk of repeating the mistakes made in Munich in '38. We
cannot know what will happen next," Cameron was reported as
saying. "This time we cannot meet Putin's demands. He has
already taken Crimea and we cannot allow him to take the whole
country."
EU
leaders held the summit to decide on who should be running the union
for the next five years, but the session was quickly overtaken by
discussion of Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
The
European commission president, José Manuel Barroso, told the summit
that Putin had told him his forces, if ordered to do so, could
conquer Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, in a fortnight.
According
to La Repubblica, Barroso said he asked Putin about the presence of
Russian troops in eastern Ukraine. Nato says there are at least 1,000
Russian forces on the wrong side of the border. The Ukrainians put
the figure at 1,600.
"The
problem is not this, but that if I want I'll take Kiev in two weeks,"
Putin said, according to La Repubblica.
The
Kremlin did not deny the remarks but complained loudly that the
Russian president had been misquoted and threatened to release the
tape of the conversation on Friday between Putin and Barroso.
Senior
Russian officials confirmed that Putin had made the remarks. Yuri
Ushakov, a Kremlin foreign policy adviser, said the Russian
president's remarks were taken out of context. "This is
incorrect, and is outside all the normal framework of diplomatic
practice, if he did say it. This is simply not appropriate for a
serious political figure," he said of the Barroso leak,
according to the Russian Interfax news agency. Putin's comments "had
a completely different meaning".
Vladimir
Chizhov, Russian ambassador to the EU in Brussels, said he was
prepared to release the phone conversation tape.
Petro
Poroshenko, the Ukrainian president, attended the EU summit on
Saturday and painted an apocalyptic picture of the conflict, with EU
leaders in private dropping their usual public poise.
Dalia
Grybauskaite, the Lithuanian president, declared that Russia was "at
war with Europe". The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, the main
mediator with Putin, was said to be furious with the Russian leader,
warning that he was "irrational" and "unpredictable".
Merkel
pointed to the dangers for the Baltic states on Russia's western
borders, home to large ethnic Russian minorities. She warned that
Estonia and Latvia could be Putin's next targets, La Repubblica said.
Defence
of the two countries – both are Nato, EU and eurozone members –
is the centrepiece of this week's Nato summit in Wales and the
alliance is said to view that defence as a red line that Putin dare
not cross. Barack Obama is to deliver a speech in Estonia stressing
that message.
The
main decisions at the summit in Newport are to deploy rapid response
Nato spearhead units to the Baltic and Poland if need be, to
stockpile arms and equipment in the region, and to strengthen the
international Nato presence in the east.
The
plans call for brigade-strength units of up to 4,000 forces to be
deployed within two to five days, according to a senior military
official at Nato.
To
try to avoid a legal dispute with Russia, the Nato basing in the east
will not be called "permanent" – proscribed under a
Nato-Russia pact from 1997 – but back-to-back rotation of alliance
forces will mean that there is a "persistent presence",
according to a senior Nato diplomat.
If
the Balts and Poles are reassured by the Nato moves, there will be
little short-term comfort for Ukraine at the Nato summit, which
Poroshenko is also to attend.
"It's
not actually Nato's job to be the policeman of Europe. Nato is not
the first responder on this," said the diplomat. "Nato's
planning is all about how to defend allies, not partners like
Ukraine."
Grybauskaite
demanded at the weekend that the west armed Ukraine. That is highly
unlikely. "Nato is not going to launch a defence
capacity-building mission in Ukraine," said the diplomat. The
summit is expected to take Nato membership bids by four former Soviet
states "off the table" to avoid antagonising Putin.
Mikhail
Popov, a Kremlin military official, said the plans were "evidence
of the desire of US and Nato leaders to continue their policy of
aggravating tensions with Russia" and Moscow's military posture
would be adapted appropriately.
So
far all the lies have come from Kiev which have been dutifully echoed
by western MSM and notably by the Guardian – which has become a
liberal attack dog for Empire
The
Guardian view on new Russian incursions into Ukraine
Lies
and deception have characterised Russia’s intervention in Ukraine
but the new incursions are less deniable
2
September, 2014
Listening
to Vladimir Putin, at a press conference earlier this year, solemnly
deny that Russian troops had occupied parts of Crimea, the novelist
Andrey Kurkov noted tersely in his diary: “He lies easily, uses
humour.” From the beginning the Ukraine crisis has been
characterised by bare-faced lying by the Russian president and his
officials, often accompanied by tiresome jokes, on a scale beggaring
belief.
Mr
Putin does the big lies, while his foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov,
trudges on a treadmill of deception that never stops. He was
labouring along as usual yesterday, dismissing reports that Russian
regular troops were fighting in Ukraine as “conjectures”. Not
once, he continued in his po-faced way, “have any facts been
presented to us”. Why Europe and America have to some extent gone
along with this chicanery is not that mysterious.
As
long as we half-accepted these deceptions, there seemed to be a
chance that, if the Russian president could be brought to reconsider
his intervention, a withdrawal could be accomplished without too much
loss of face. If the Russians had never been in Ukraine, they might,
in other words, cease to be there without an embarrassing fuss. This
week we passed the point where such a tactic was defensible or could
be deemed to be useful.
Only
two days after talks in Minsk with President Petro Poroshenko, Mr
Putin sent substantial extra numbers of Russian troops into Ukraine.
This is not an invasion in the full sense, and President Obama was
right to be relatively cautious in his reaction. But whereas before
Russian soldiers came in as advisers and irregulars, some of them now
seem to be on the ground as formed regular units. The reason is not
difficult to conjecture, to use Mr Lavrov’s word. The rebels in
eastern Ukraine were on the way to being defeated by Ukrainian
government forces. Mr Putin could no longer redress the balance with
“volunteers” and the like, so he had to operate more openly. His
aim may be to frighten the Ukrainians into agreeing to a ceasefire
which would freeze the conflict and allow the rebel enclaves to
survive indefinitely. He may also want to take territory which will
connect Russia with annexed Crimea.
One
unfortunate consequence has already been a raising of the rhetorical
stakes on the Ukrainian and Nato sides. The Ukrainian prime minister
has said he will ask parliament to consider ending the country’s
non-aligned status in order to join Nato, while Anders Rasmussen, the
Nato secretary general, has said it is free to do so. This is the
standard Nato line, but it has been regarded as less than useful,
given Russian sensibilities, to repeat it since the crisis began.
Ukraine is also reintroducing conscription, and Ukrainian officials
are urgently repeating their appeals for economic aid and for certain
kinds of non-lethal military equipment.
Mr
Putin has rubbed salt into the Ukrainian wound, in one of his
historical soliloquies, by saying that it seems to him that Russians
and Ukrainians are “practically one people”, and that Kiev’s
military campaign “sadly reminds me of the events of the second
world war when German fascist… occupants surrounded our cities”.
Ukrainian shelling of civilian areas is indeed to be deplored, but
otherwise Mr Putin’s history, as so often, is at fault. He forgets
that Ukraine decisively rejected union, or even close association,
with Russia in 1991.
All
this comes only a few days before the Nato summit in Wales. It shows
Mr Putin unimpressed by Nato’s arrangements for pre-positioning of
equipment in eastern Europe and the rotation of Nato forces there,
which are irrelevant to his aims in Ukraine. Nato does not want to
cross over the line to real military aid to Ukraine, let alone
anything more than that. That gives Mr Putin a tactical advantage,
but this latest escalation also sets Kiev even more firmly against
him than before. How can that possibly serve any sensible purpose?
Russian Soldiers Missing: Dozhd TV continues search for Kremlin troops killed in Ukraine
There has not, it is true, been much of this in Russian media - but this item addresses the question
NGO:
We can’t confirm reports of injured & killed Russian soldiers
Foreign
Media outlets report Russia is sending troops to Ukraine then
secretly buries those who die. We talk to an NGO spokesman who looked
into these reports
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