If you haven't picked it up yet there are are arguments going on between people who overall approve of Putin's policy towards the crisis in Novorossia and those who regard Kremlin policy as treachery and Putin as an "appeaser".
I don't adopt either extreme view and bring both sides of the "argument" so you can get a sense of the different factions that are forming inside the resistance
Colonel
Cassad's first rate analysis of the war in Ukraine: it tells the
truth as it is.
The
root problem of the troubles with Putin's, Lavrov's ad Surkov's
politics of "big [and self-defeating] bargain,"
"dithering," and "oscillations" is, as I see it,
the obvious elitism of this politics as opposed to the principles of
"narodnaya vlast" (people's power). In this politics that
relies on (well behaving) oligarchs, bureaucrats, and political
managers, people (whether in Russia or Novorossiya) and people's
power are barely factored in. This hubris of power is morally
inadequate and politically suicidal.
Colonel
Cassad also reveals the fact that excellent analyses of the Saker has
also been accompanied with excellent disinformation covering up the
policy of the "great [and suicidal] bargain" which Putin,
Lavrov, and Surkov tried to implement based on decision from April
24.
--Vladimir
Suchan
The article below is from, I would say a semi-Marxist point-of-of-view and the website has the following slogan:
"The mouthpiece of totalitarian propaganda"
"Рупор тоталитарной пропаганды"
About
the "truce"
Про
"перемирие
Via Yandex Translate
In
General, of course it is not entirely clear why so much surprise at
such text "truce" and its results.
1.
About the political background of replacement manual DND and LNR I
July and August have written several times, especially in the
materials associated with attempts to neutralize strelkov. In the
end, what was planned in the beginning of July, trying to realize in
the beginning of September. Incapable of reaching agreement pushed
aside, the rest hung on strings of supply - if someone does not
understand yet, the delivery of humanitarian assistance to those or
other commanders, have indirect control of the political processes in
the Donbass. Who humanitarian aid gets something done, and who does
not receive those in the best case on the side. With certain times,
the spout supply humanitarian aid arbitrarily rigged in the interests
of some field commanders, and block those shows obstinacy. So
actually going to increase the manageability of processes from
Moscow.
2.
Moscow and in the spring of 2014 does not have a coherent strategy in
the Donbass and acts situational. This is because scheduled in early
March, the line on the big new Russia, with troops for its security
after April 24 (when this decision refused) ordered to live long. But
since the uprising is already the de facto was in full swing, the
Kremlin faced an unpleasant dilemma - from troops under the threat of
direct confrontation with the United States declined from full
discharge of Novorossiya, too, had to be abandoned because of the
implications for inner peace in the Russian Federation were
considered unacceptable. In the end, was selected partial option,
when one hand fed militias, and the other tried to negotiate with the
Ukrainian oligarchs (bypassing USA) about stopping the process.
3.
Negotiations continued during June, while the militia stretched thin
trickle of humanitarian aid. The battles were generally slow
(compared to July and August), hand pottered about trying to find a
compromise, but to reach him failed. During this time, with Akhmetov,
the junta passed Mariupol, Donetsk did anything (by pressing
business, the division of powers, the struggle for humanitarian aid,
the drafting of the constitutions of varying degrees of insanity) but
not the war. Shooters, which appeared in Slavyansk in the calculation
of the troops (which never happened) and sitting on a key transport
interchange in the rear of the troops of the junta protecting the
border against a possible invasion of Russian troops, frankly "sad",
while increasing the troops of the junta continued to wrap around
Slavyansk, preparing for Strelkova boiler.
4.
Then there was the well-known events - July 1, began the offensive
junta, Slavyansk got into the operational environment in Donetsk
intensified work on the surrender of the city, Shooters, after
consultation with Moscow goes from Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, comes
with 2000 soldiers in Donetsk, there immediately begin to fly from
their posts Pozhidaev, Khodakovsky, Lukyanchenko. Later went Putilin.
After this war went quite seriously, no joke - sacrifice became a
truly mass destruction on this scale, was used almost that can be
applied. A failure to agree, naturally led to attempts junta to win
the war purely power means, what the junta was close in the first
half of August, when, after more than a month of bloody fighting, its
subsidiaries, was rolled out on the streets of Shakhtersk and red
Beam. But as we know, this did not happen and the new Russia
survived.
5.
However, after coming Strelkova in Donetsk, by increasing the density
of the military orders, the militias were able to release power and
hold the junta first large boiler, which ended with a Grand disaster
with thousands dead and missing, and more than a hundred killed and
captured by the militia armored vehicles. At the same time, the
initiators of the negotiations with the junta (direct contacts were
made as Surkov himself and his people and customers - Russian
oligarchs like Friedman and former members of the so-called Family
like Voloshin continued negotiations with Akhmetov and Poroshenko
(Kolomoisky as the development of its conflict with Poroshenko, fell
from the number of potential participants of the negotiations and
Russia and Poroshenko now Globat joint efforts Benya was not needed,
Benya will become the scapegoat of the Civil war).
The
main interest of those who is Surkov was to avoid direct
confrontation with the United States that threatened their assets in
the West and the ability to conduct business there. The boundary
condition was preventing full discharge, what first struck by Putin,
which would explain why when all ur pathetic-rhetoric, Russia openly
over and over again. Ukraine - Yushchenko put, Yanukovych overthrown,
and here and Novorossia passed). So while Ginobili Strelkova in favor
of trying to come to terms Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs, tap
"Voentorg" began to open, but strictly homeopathic doses.
7.
It was enough that the militia bleeding resisted the attack of
superior forces junta, slowly retreating to the key position - taking
on the road Lisichansk ledge, Debaltsevo, Saur-Grave. All this is
quite reasonably led to Augustowska crisis, when using a foothold in
Debaltsevo, the junta tried to achieve a decisive victory, coming up
to her at arm's length. It is possible that if the junta did not plan
all sorts of nonsense in the Perekop and on the border with
Pridnestrovie, and used troops standing there in the Donbass, they
would probably enough to still cut off from DND LNR. But it did not
happen. In Moscow came the realization that the next do not delay,
therefore, was made operational replacement guide DND and LNR, more
manageable people. Of change with a view to negotiations with the
junta. The main spring replacement was humanitarian aid, the same
Strelkova quite clearly put a condition that either you go or your
troops will not receive assistance. It is quite clear that chose
Shooters. Private contractors are still a few days before the
resignation was an open text says - cargo Strelkova not to ship.
Because even then it was decided to open a "red spout Voentorg" on the full, the curators of the Ukrainian direction, were not interested in Lavra got Strelkova, who already had 3 months to successfully defend Slavyansk, and then more months and Donetsk agglomeration. Therefore, just before the beginning of the counterattack, followed by Bolotov (there were both political and some not political reasons) and Boroday, left and Strelkova. Literally within days, the hot water from the "red spout valorga" beginning to digest in a rapidly emerging boilers part of the junta that led to the universal apocalyptic picture of the burned bodies, burned-out tanks and other equipment - loss junta in a few days was increased tenfold, and the front line began to gain more and more threatening shape.
Because even then it was decided to open a "red spout Voentorg" on the full, the curators of the Ukrainian direction, were not interested in Lavra got Strelkova, who already had 3 months to successfully defend Slavyansk, and then more months and Donetsk agglomeration. Therefore, just before the beginning of the counterattack, followed by Bolotov (there were both political and some not political reasons) and Boroday, left and Strelkova. Literally within days, the hot water from the "red spout valorga" beginning to digest in a rapidly emerging boilers part of the junta that led to the universal apocalyptic picture of the burned bodies, burned-out tanks and other equipment - loss junta in a few days was increased tenfold, and the front line began to gain more and more threatening shape.
8.
The junta this point, frankly missed and despite threatening
situation, continued with persistence worthy of a better cause, to
try to break the defense of the army of the new Russia under
Ilovaisk, doing the same thing the Germans did in Stalingrad. This
ended in a terrible accident and the collapse of the southern Front.
"Red spout Voentorg" role played excellently and the junta
already openly began to beat in many boilers, where the forces of the
army of the new Russia, where the forces of merchandisers from
Voentorg". But officially no "merchandiser" is not and
was not. The junta in the South rolled up to Mariupol, passed the
airport Lugansk, Lutugino, almost passed Debaltsevo and on the agenda
was a question about the withdrawal of troops of the new Russia to
the operating room. Russia also successfully used a welcome
opportunity failed provocation of the downed Boeing, which was hit by
the junta, but not been able to properly put the blame for this on
militias and Putin. So while the junta was screaming that "Voentorg"
very conscience lost, Russia naturally translated all the arrows on
Boeing and the junta, resulting in a slim information line of the
West in relation to the new Russia, was undermined by this failed
provocation, which hardly now hushed.
On the agenda was the storming of Mariupol, clear Debaltsevo, the lesson of Happiness, as well as the impacts on the plant and Severodonetsk, as well as the attack on Konstantinovka. Before the junta was looming threat of war, amid the dismal situation in the rear.
C
the end of August-beginning of September, it became obvious that the
military means to destroy the new Russia will not work, the junta
frankly was spitting blood and at the same time the US and its
satellites began to tighten its policy in relations with Russia. Just
like in April, began attempts to bypass the U.S. to stop the process,
fixing some acceptable results (which are trying to cover up display
phantoms like "single Pro-Russian Ukraine and various rotten
talks about the "federalization"). If you'll notice, at
Minsk negotiations, the US in fact were not provided, but it depends
on them how to behave junta. By September, Akhmetov has been able to
fully strengthen its position in the structures of DND (Novorossiya
whatever it was - everything will be in order) and to establish a
dialogue with Moscow. All nedogovorosposobnostyu people were removed
from key positions, so in Minsk and had started negotiations, which
are designed not so much to determine the future of the new Russia,
and to help Russia avoid direct confrontation with the United States
bringing the war on the brakes and avoiding sanctions affecting our
everything Gazprom, oil and banking sector, as well as some of the
oligarchs.
From Zakharchenko and Carpentry there is little that is tied to the delivery of humanitari and if need be, they too will quickly be replaced by more flexible people. The junta of course jumped at the opportunity, as an offensive army Novorossia successfully developed by military junta to stop him could not, and the attack is not yet exhausted and could successfully evolve for at least another 5-7 days with the release of large areas and large cities. A military junta certainly benefit from this break - she hastily plug holes on the front and drives down the reserves, passing through the local occurrence, like the attack on almanova order to cut Novoazovskiy grouping army Novorossia from the main forces North of almanova. Russia also received desired, in the form of a reduction of the rhetoric of the US and its satellites and delay sanctions. Member of the militia or the Nazi guards who didn't understand why the truce - here it is clear no one asked. Within the so-called "big politics," it consumables on the "chess Board". One month can bleed in the defense, waiting for them will reveal the tap "Voentorg", the other is to inhale hundreds of boilers cursing Poroshenko and Mat.
From Zakharchenko and Carpentry there is little that is tied to the delivery of humanitari and if need be, they too will quickly be replaced by more flexible people. The junta of course jumped at the opportunity, as an offensive army Novorossia successfully developed by military junta to stop him could not, and the attack is not yet exhausted and could successfully evolve for at least another 5-7 days with the release of large areas and large cities. A military junta certainly benefit from this break - she hastily plug holes on the front and drives down the reserves, passing through the local occurrence, like the attack on almanova order to cut Novoazovskiy grouping army Novorossia from the main forces North of almanova. Russia also received desired, in the form of a reduction of the rhetoric of the US and its satellites and delay sanctions. Member of the militia or the Nazi guards who didn't understand why the truce - here it is clear no one asked. Within the so-called "big politics," it consumables on the "chess Board". One month can bleed in the defense, waiting for them will reveal the tap "Voentorg", the other is to inhale hundreds of boilers cursing Poroshenko and Mat.
10.
However, despite the political truce, war as such has continued,
because the logic of the conflict requires his permission it by
military means. Inertia war caused all the recent shootings, shelling
and fighting. While the junta openly and publicly demonstrates that
openly uses the "truce" to build strength for the
transition to a new offensive. US look at it with approval, as a
military solution to the problems of Novorossia and the final defeat
of Russia in the struggle for Ukraine, in their national interests.
Absolutely no difference in what condition is the junta - while it is
in power, it will be used against Russia. The suffering of the
population, casualties among the soldiers and the destruction of
infrastructure - from the point of view of the United States are
insignificant cost. So from a military point of view, only the
complete destruction of the fascist junta is the best guarantee of
ending the war.
In
the manual of Novorossia understand it, but I can't do anything, as
they depend on the political line supervisors of Ukrainian politics
and humanitarian supplies.
Hence
the silly statement that "we thought that the junta will be
possible to observe a truce, and it does not comply with " Oh
what a bad fascist junta". Of course this kindergarten seriously
discredits as a military-political leadership of the DND and the
Russian policy in the new Russia. The junta that moment caught and
frankly enjoys, but it has one problem - she can't by force to solve
the problem of Novorossiya, if the star-spangled hand sanctions will
not fall on the "red spout Voentorg" and carefully it will
not overlap giving the junta needed time.
But it's to launch an offensive of course possible, but extremely high risk of getting no flags junta over Donetsk and Kiev, and thousands of dead and hundreds of broken-down tanks and APC-s with another blow that Putin kills patriots of Ukraine and Poroshenko with the generals all betrayed.
But it's to launch an offensive of course possible, but extremely high risk of getting no flags junta over Donetsk and Kiev, and thousands of dead and hundreds of broken-down tanks and APC-s with another blow that Putin kills patriots of Ukraine and Poroshenko with the generals all betrayed.
Both
sides can not yet be determined with a resolution of the crisis, the
war continues on as usual, where the resumption of full-scale
hostilities looks inevitable, because the US will push the junta to
power the destruction of the new Russia, and Russia in turn once
again fall into the same plug decisions between power script (troops
or doing merchandiser" it's not so important - it is the only
method to accomplish it) and discharge the new Russia (termination of
military support, the agreement on "United Ukraine" and
twisting of the hands of the warlords army Novorossia that will start
to ask "tough questions"). The main difficulty negotiators
is that the standard reaction militias on the proposal for a "single
Pro-Russian Ukraine" - "What in Dongpu Express Ukraine?!"
For United Ukraine" from Russia can fight except that
polittehnologi in Moscow and the staff Surkov which this nonsense
translates to the masses, militias fighting there for quite another.
Some
still stubbornly can't understand that the war junta with the new
Russia, this is only one dimension of the conflict without resolving
the contradictions between the USA and Russia, full of peace will not
be there. Therefore, Minsk negotiations and pachana paper, which was
signed there, it's just another attempt to jump out of the same
unpleasant fork decisions that still need to take.
Actually
that is why I did not rush to join the crowd with cries of "the
new Russia merged" or recite mantras about GPP. The final choice
remains to be done and the current efforts will depart from it, only
worsen the conditions in which this selection will be made.
New
Russia in some form certainly will. But whatever it will be, will be
decided in the coming weeks, when it becomes clear the final choice
of Russia in the Ukrainian question.
The
Novorussian ceasefire agreement + open thread
7
September, 2014
Dear
friends,
I
had seen the Russian text on the OSCE page, and now Gleb Bazov sent
me his translation. To say that I am under-impressed by this text
would be an understatement. I would also note that many well
informed sources spoke of a 14 points plan. Are two more points held
in secret? What is certain is that this documents is imprecise,
nebulous, ambiguous and otherwise vague to such a degree that I would
argue that it is basically impossible to implement. Knowing the
degree to which Russian diplomats are normally maniacally fastidious
and pedantic with words, I can only conclude that they have
deliberately sabotaged this agreement and that it's sole use what to
deflate the bellicose mood of the NATO summit. But as a basis for a
real ceasefire it is useless, nevermind a real negotiation for a
final status agreement or peace treaty.
The
first rule for any kind of ceasefire is to provide a painstakingly
accurate timetime for the implementation of unambiguously defined and
verifiable de-escalation measures followed by a precise schedule for
confidence building measures subject to mutual verification. There
is nothing like that here. Points 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 mean absolutely
nothing, the rest are vague and ambiguous at best. This is one of
the worst ceasefire agreements I have ever seen.
Either
way, numerous reports seem to indicate that the cease-fire has
already been violated in many locations. Some kind of deal will
eventually be made, and maybe this symbolic first step is, at best, a
way to get the process going. But in itself, this document is
useless.
The
Saker
PS:
I will be gone all day tomorrow. I leave you with an open thread.
PROTOCOL
on the results of consultations of the Trilateral Contact Group
with respect to the joint steps aimed at
the implementation of the Peace Plan
of the President of Ukraine, P. Poroshenko,
and the initiatives of the President of Russia, V. Putin
Upon consideration and discussion of the proposals put forward by the participants of the consultations in Minsk on September 1, 2014, the Trilateral Contact Group, consisting of the representatives of Ukraine, the Russian Federation and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe [OSCE], reached an understanding with respect to the need to implement the following steps:
- Ensure the immediate bilateral cessation of the use of weapons.
- Ensure monitoring and verification by the OSCE of the regime of non-use of weapons.
- Implement decentralization of power, including by means of enacting the Law of Ukraine “With respect to the temporary status of local self-government in certain areas of the Donetsk and the Lugansk regions” (Law on Special Status).
- Ensure permanent monitoring on the Ukrainian-Russian state border and verification by the OSCE, together with the creation of a security area in the border regions of Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
- Immediately release all hostages and unlawfully detained persons.
- Enact a law prohibiting the prosecution and punishment of persons in connection with the events that took place in certain areas of the Donetsk and the Lugansk regions of Ukraine.
- Conduct an inclusive national dialogue.
- Adopt measures aimed at improving the humanitarian situation in Donbass.
- Ensure the holding of early local elections in accordance with the Law of Ukraine “With respect to the temporary status of local self-government in certain areas of the Donetsk and the Lugansk regions” (Law on Special Status).
- Remove unlawful military formations, military hardware, as well as militants and mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine.
- Adopt a program for the economic revival of Donbass and the recovery of economic activity in the region.
- Provide personal security guarantees for the participants of the consultations
.
Participants of the Trilateral Contact Group:
Ambassador Heidi Talyavini (signed)
Second President of Ukraine, L.D. Kuchma (signed)
Ambassador of the Russian Federation in Ukraine, M.Y. Zurabov (signed)
A.V. Zakharchenko (signed)
I.V. Plotnitskiy (signed)
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