Thursday, 23 October 2014

Guy McPherson lecture in Auckland, New Zealand

It appears that there was a real brouhaha at last night's public meeting featuring Guy McPherson.

It reflects the differences between academics with their own areas of specialisation (who, I would say, have long since ceased to see the wood for the trees) and people like the Samoa lecturer who has seen rapid climate change in action.

NZ: Academics trade insults in critical debate over ‘abrupt climate change’

Professor Guy McPherson speaking at AUT University last night. Image: Del Abcede/PMC

23 October, 2014


AUCKLAND (Pacific Media Watch): A fierce debate broke out during a public lecture about “abrupt climate change” last night with two academics locking horns over scientific predictions about the future of the planet and an audience seeking answers about a path of action.
United States ecologist and professor emeritus Guy McPherson of the University of Arizona spoke to a packed auditorium to open his New Zealand speaking tour.
Professor McPherson suggested that humans faced extinction as a result of climate change within 40 years, based on several factors:
  •  - there has been no pause in global warming, which has accelerated since 1997;
     
  •  -  the planet was discovered last year within 1 percent of being uninhabitable;
     
  •  - and that 39 self reinforcing feedback loops now existed.
Climate feedback loops occur when "human activities increase global temperature through the addition of the heat-trapping gases ... Then, the warmer atmosphere causes more evaporation, which increases the amount of water vapor, causing more warming. This leads to more evaporation, even more warming, and so on, in a self-reinforcing cycle", according to Climate Communication.
Uncertain science
Dr Sebastian Leuzinger ... contested Prof McPherson's views. Image: Del Abcede/PMC
Dr Sebastian Leuzinger ... contested Prof McPherson's views. Image: Del 
Abcede/PMC

However, discussant Dr Sebastian Leuzinger, a global change ecologist at AUT University, disputed Prof McPherson's conclusions, saying climate change science was inherently uncertain because the physical boundary conditions were uncertain - such as rainfall and soil conditions at any given place on earth at any point and how they would react to a rise in temperature.


During discussion time, Dr Leuzinger accused Prof McPherson of using unscientific papers to make a scientific argument, of cherry pickingand then of effectively advocating global suicide by saying that humans were going to die anyway.
Prof McPherson replied that accusing him of supporting mass suicide was the most unprofessional behaviour he had ever seen and that people needed to take action to save the planet.
"The alternatives are being pointed out and being lived by indigenous people,” he said. He challenged Dr Leuzinger on several points and he was unable to respond.
A Samoan criminology lecturer in the audience also challenged Dr Leuzinger over his statements, citing the case of the Carteret Islanders in Papua New Guinea and other Pacific peoples being forced to relocate in recent years because of climate change.
Dr Laumua Tunufa'i said what he had witnessed in the outer islands of Papua New Guinea was not a constant or slow growth in climate change at all.
He had seen fast damaging effects of climate change unfolding on his friends and family in recent times.
Disappearing island
"I have friends from Papua New Guinea who have been relocated because their island is disappearing.
They have been relocated to Bougainville, which is not the same culturally, and the Bougainvilleans do not accept them even though they are all Papua New Guineans politically.
Right next door to them are more disappearing islands. How do we explain this to the people on disappearing islands?" he asked.
Professor McPherson said there was no longer any linear growth in climate change. The rate of growth in atmospheric methane rose from the 1980s in a linear fashion, but went exponential from 2005 onwards.
"An exponential curve shows the runaway greenhouse that you might expect from planet that is 1 percent away from being uninhabitable" he added.

As far back as 1990, the United Nations Advisory Group on Greenhouse Gases warned that any increase in the earth’s temperature beyond 1 degree Celsius may “elicit rapid, unpredictable and non-linear responses that could lead to extensive ecosystem damage”.

“It appears that that was conservative”, Professor McPherson said. There had been no humans in existence at 3.5 degrees above the baseline in the past and with the earth headed for a temperature increase of over 4 degrees in the near future, all we can prepare for is extinction, “he dded.


Ecosystem damage

At this point, there would be extensive ecosystem damage.

Professor McPherson re-emphasised that only the "complete collapse of civilisation" could prevent runaway climate change, and that this was unlikely to happen.

The notion that scientists would develop a new technology or by co-operating governments to save global warming was "fantasy", said Professor McPherson, since global warming was irreversible without massive geo-engineering of the atmosphere’s chemistry.
It is not a solution and that is the only solution that the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) comes up with. It is fantasy technology, and fantasy technology that arrived a little bit too late” he said.

Professor McPherson told the audience several times that there was no solution to human extinction within the current ways of civilisation because humans were like monkeys that were enamoured with shiny objects.
He proposed that humans act to make a better world even if people were not going to be part of it, for the sake of those species that would survive.
We don’t necessarily have to assume that we are all going to live to 100 years old to take those acts. Let’s act even if the asteroid is on the way,” Professor McPherson said.

Early deaths
He warned that five million poor people of colour a year were already dying early deaths because of climate change.
"It’s a white man’s world. We are at the apex of privilege and until we start dying in large numbers I don’t think there is going to be a lot of change,” he said.

Dr Leuzinger said the prediction that a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide would lead to a 4-degree increase in the surface temperature of earth was accurate, but the probability that humans were going to die within a few decades was very low, as most of the science had not concluded this.
The exponential damage was unlikely because in ecology there was rarely an exponential curve. The more diverse the disturbance, the smaller the response of an ecosystem, Dr Leuzinger added.
He did not support ending civilisation. "

It is becoming a little bit absurd to me. I don’t think we can dismantle society,” said Dr Leuzinger.


Action unlikely
Kevin Hester, organiser of Prof McPherson's speaking tour, added that it was unlikely that countries would reduce their emissions.

"The IPCC have been telling us for 16 years that it is imperative that we cut our emissions in that decade and a half our emissions have continued to grow. They live in the hope that our political leaders will come up with a solution, an international agreement,” he said.
We all know how divided the political planet is. There is no way our emissions are going to go down. One of the last habitable places in the world is going to be the South Island."
Senior lecturer Dr Cristina Parra of AUT's School of Social Sciences and Public Policy said she was concerned that it did indeed look as if another mass extinction was on the way, but cautioned that more scientific evidence was needed if people were to believe that humans would be extinct within 40 years.
The seminar was co-hosted by the Pacific Media Centre and the School of Social Sciences and Public Policy.
It is expected to be followed with a symposium on climate change, which is proposed for AUT next year.   
Professor Guy McPherson talks to members of the audience last night at AUT. Image: Del Abcede/PMC
Professor Guy McPherson talks to members of the audience last night at AUT. 
Image: Del Abcede/PMC
Part of the audience at last night's public lecture on climate change. Image: Del Abcede/PMC
Part of the audience at last night's public lecture on climate change. Image: Del 
Abcede/PMC
Pacific Media Centre director Professor David Robie and Dr Cristina Parra at last night's AUT climate change public lecture. Images: Del Abcede/PMC
Pacific Media Centre director Professor David Robie and Dr Cristina Parra at last 
night's AUT climate change public lecture. Images: Del Abcede/PMC


Here are comments from Kevin Hester, who was there

That's our first presentation done and the traveling part of the tour under way. We were ambushed when the stand in co-presenter attacked Guy and said some veryprovocative things like bringing up the subject of " Mass Suicide" !!! implying that somehow believing in NTHE somehow made that a possibility! WTF? I gave him a serve afterwards saying it was totally irresponsible for him to have said such a thing and he replied," It's what I think, I can say what I like". Considering we are bringing a very troubling message to people, sometimes for the very first time I believe throwing a comment like mass suicide into the debate was cavalier in the extreme.

Dr Daniel Hikuroa, research director of Ngā Pae o te Māramatanga, New Zealand's Māori Centre of Research Excellence was slated to speak and when he became unavailable Dr Sebastian Leuzinger, deputy director, Institute for Applied Ecology New Zealand stepped into take his place. Due to the email issues that I have had lately I missed that change and was caught unawares as I hadn't had a chance to research Sebastian Leuzinger. He accused Guy of cherry picking data and ignoring other negative feedback loops, when asked to list some of them he couldn't!

As with the Climate Change march a few weeks ago I was told moments before the presentation that I wasn't allowed to introduce Guy to the audience as it was Cristina Parra Jerez who was the host. No problems there except it was Guy who had specifically asked me to do so and his request was ignored.Power tripping much?

In her lengthy introduction Christina referred to 100's of extinctions / year when the real number is 200 /day??????? What prey tell is the purpose of stating numbers that are demonstrably incorrect?

Here is the write up of interview Guy did with Anna Maajvu


12 comments:

  1. CC: via comments posted to: Pacific Media Center: New Zealand Academics trade insults in critical debate over ‘abrupt climate change’; SeeMoreRocks: Guy McPherson lecture in Auckland



    Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:52 PM
    To: 'Dr. Guy McPherson'; 'Guy McPherson'; 'AUT: Dr Sebastian Leuzinger'; 'Pacific Media Center'; 'PMC: Director David Robbie'; 'Prof Laumua Tunufa'i via AUT Walter Fraser'; 'Kate Scott'; 'Dr Cristina Parra'
    Cc: 'Timothy McVeigh'
    Subject: Legal Invitation: MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council

    Legal Invitation to support an Ecology of Peace New World Order: Ecology of Peace international law social contract that enables orderly and humane reduction of Earth’s population and consumption.

    TO: Dr. Guy McPherson (grm@ag.arizona.edu); Guy McPherson (guy.r.mcpherson@gmail.com); [4th invitation]; AUT: Dr Sebastian Leuzinger (Sebastian.Leuzinger@aut.ac.nz); Pacific Media Center (pmc@aut.ac.nz); PMC: Director David Robbie (david.robie@aut.ac.nz); Prof Laumua Tunufa'i via AUT Walter Fraser (wfraser@aut.ac.nz) and Kate Scott (kate.scott@aut.ac.nz); Kevin Hester [via Facebook message]; Dr Cristina Parra (cristina.parra@aut.ac.nz)
    CC: Timothy McVeigh (truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com)

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  2. Brief summary of ‘War is Peace’ (WiP) history and humanity’s current EoP –v- WiP options:

    As detailed at Ecology of Peace –v- War is Peace [EoP v WiP] page:

    1. Earth is not flat
    2. Resources are not infinite
    3. When humans breed or consume above ecological and/or cultural carrying capacity limits, it results in resource conflict.
    4. War is Peace history: either:
    a. Religious and political leaders ignored facts (1) (2) & (3); choosing instead to bribe their tribes members to believe it is their 'inalienable [freedumb slavery] right' to breed and consume above carrying capacity limits; as they embark on the totalitarian agriculture motivated beyond retardation (motarded) ratrace to choose to join one or other ideological, religious, racial or cultural tribe to engage in resource war thieving to accumulate more resources to grow their tribe to enable it to protect itself from another tribes organized violence resource war thieving, and/or;
    b. Anti-war Ecology of Peace religious and/or political leaders did inform citizens of ecological literacy reality that sustainable world peace; requires implementing an international law social contract that confronts facts (1) (2) & (3); that requires all humans to breed or consume below carrying capacity; but either:
    i. citizens were too greedy to breed and/or consume as much as they want; and so nobody listened to the anti-war Ecology of Peace leaders; and/or;
    ii. not enough Generals and soldiers were willing to collectively support such Ecology of Peace principles and demand by force that their civilian political, religious and legal leaders enact a sustainable world peace social contract.
    5. Current EoP –v– WiP reality future: Humans have now bred so much, and consumed so much of the earths finite resources, that humanity is now between 700 and 400,000 % over carrying capacity limits, which means either:
    a. EoP: Humans find a way to legally implement an Ecology of Peace international law social contract that enables orderly and humane reduction of population and consumption:
    i. Voluntarily by civil society who support political and military leaders to legislate such an international law social contract into law transparently and democratically; or
    ii. Involuntarily by politicians who legislate such international law social contract into law in secret; or
    iii. Involuntarily by military force; either as coercive pressure on civil society, legislative authorities, or ultimately as a military necessity coup d’etat.
    b. WiP: Armageddon collision of humans overbreeding and overconsuming with ecological finite resource reality: and mother nature uses death, pestilence, famine, war on an unimaginable scale to very violently reduce human population and consumption.

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  3. Ecology of Peace New World Order: Ecology of Peace international law social contract that enables orderly and humane reduction of Earth’s population and consumption:

    MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council:

    Excerpts: EoP PoW submission to Swiss Federal Council Re: Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, ITO Articles 142 & 143:

    “The seventh principle of humanitarian action in armed conflict says: “Contextualization: Effective humanitarian action should encompass a comprehensive view of overall needs and of the impact of interventions. Encouraging respect for human rights and addressing the underlying causes of conflicts are essential elements.” - Dec 1994: Dept of the Army, Field Manual 100-23, Peace Operations.

    The general argument of this submission argues on behalf of the Ecological Overshoot Scarcity Conflict Sustainable Security Military Necessity that all Eco and Ego logically Illiterate International Treaty’s addressing war or peace issues, which do not address the underlying ecological overshoot and civilized patriarchy root causes of conflict; should be deemed fraudulent and hence null and void; or appropriately amended.

    Suggested Definitions:

    [16] Breeding/Consumption Scarcity Combatant Parties to the Conflict:

    [16.1] Any individual, organisation or nation whose procreation or consumption footprint violates its commons carrying capacity limits; should be designated as a ‘breeding/consumption’ scarcity combatant party to any local, regional, national or international resource scarcity related conflict.

    [17] Breeding/Consumption Weapons of War:

    [17.1] “We must all understand that the most potent weapons of war are the penis, the womb, and the ego. Therefore, if you cannot convince a group to control its population and consumption, to below carrying capacity limits; by discussion, debate, intelligent analysis, etc.; you must consider their action in using the penis and the womb to increase population; or using the ego to consume in violation of carrying capacity limits; an Act of War” – Amended version of quote by Judge Jason G. Brent, in Humans: An Endangered Species.

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  4. [18] Biological Warfare:

    [18.1] Biological Warfare is simply a symptom of breeding and consumption biological behaviors. The most dangerous root cause biological warfare ingredients are (a) male sperm; (b) female ovaries; and (c) ego-gender insecurity memeplexes that have hijacked our brain-matter/minds; to engage in breeding war and consumption warfare behaviour; resulting in ecological overshot, standing armies and finally military biological warfare.

    [19] Chemical Warfare:

    [19.1] Chemical Warfare is simply a symptom of breeding and consumption chemical behaviors. The most dangerous root cause chemical warfare ingredients are (a) male sperm; (b) female ovaries; and (c) ego-gender insecurity memeplexes that have hijacked our brain-matter/minds; to engage in breeding war and consumption warfare behaviour; resulting in ecological overshot, standing armies and finally military chemical warfare.

    [20] Fraud of UN ‘Peace’ and ‘War’ Treaties:

    [20.1] Any United Nations endorsed international treaty related to ‘war’ or ‘peace’ that ignores specifically addressing the breeding war and consumption war violation of carrying capacity limits root causes of ecological overshoot, which subsequently manifests as cannon fodder standing armies and their creation of military chemical, biological, technological, electronic and other related warfare ingredients, is based upon deception and fraud.

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  5. War is Peace New World Order: Info on motivations of individuals who object to an Ecology of Peace international law social contract that enables orderly and humane reduction of Earth’s population and consumption:

    Excerpts: GMC 2473 Applicants 11 September 2014 DRAFT Referral:

    WiP Objectors Motivations: In the absence of individuals from War is Peace cultures who object to this Ecology of Peace submission filing objection briefs clarifying their objection arguments, it is not possible to say with certainty what their objection motivations are. The Clerk suspects objectors motivations to be any one or a combination of the following:

    Flat Earthers: They are ecologically illiterate:
    Ecologically deaf, dumb and blind clueless of impending Peak Resources MadMax Armageddon reality, and/or its overpopulation and overconsumption causes.

    Fundamentalists:
    They are fundamentally serious about their racial and/or religious -- RaHoWa / Kill Whitey / Eschaton / Final Solution -- end times prophecies; and perceive Impending Peak Resources Ecological Collapse of the SY Civilization Titanic as a race/class/religious war opportunity for their totally unrestricted blood guts gore orgy of violence to totally eliminate their respective ‘ni**ers / spicks / crackers / joos / liberal’ enemies from the face of the earth; to establish their respective racial or religious -- White Power / Black Power / Christian / Catholic / Islam -- New World Order.

    Egologically Illiterate and/or Mi$ery Para$ites:
    They got their ego's and bank balances stuck in the misery – selective anti-racism, anti-colonialism, anti-imperialism, anti-zionism, anti-misogyny, anti-war, etc – profiteering till / cookie jar’.

    Excerpts of: GMC 2473 Applicants 11 September 2014 DRAFT Referral and 03-14 December 2013 Submission Brief of Revision of Geneva Convention: (I) 'Parties to the Conflict' and 'Prisoner of War' Definitions & (II) Annulment or EOP Amendment of Eco/Egologically Illiterate War is Peace (WiP) Treaties; on behalf of Presidents Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin; submitted to Swiss Federal Council; copies to (i) University of Minnesota Human Rights Library; (ii) Int’l Criminal Court (ICC): Prosecutors Office; (iii) Int’l Court of Justice (ICJ) President via Peace Palace Library; (iv) United Nations: Rule of Law Unit: Deputy Secretary-General; (v) International Law Institute (PDF).

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  6. Ecology of Peace New World Order: Ecology of Peace international law social contract that enables orderly and humane reduction of Earth’s population and consumption:

    Current legal status of MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council:

    As detailed at MILED Clerk Notice page.

    19 April & 11 September 2014: Draft referral of EoP PoW Geneva Amendments submission to the Swiss Federal Council on behalf of President Obama & Putin, awaiting authorization via GMC 2578-14 court proceedings; and/or US & RU Embassies in Pretoria.

    Clerk Resignation:
    In early April the Clerk informed GMC 4643-13 applicants that in the absence of un/conditional co-operator support for non-violent EoP negotiations; she would resign on 19 April 2014; and recommend to US & RU officials to find themselves another EoP PoW submission Clerk.

    Legal Objections:
    Honourable legal objectors of the EoP PoW Amendments to Geneva Convention submission were required to submit a legal brief with their legal argument; to the Clerk by 22 July 2014 (or to notify the clerk by 22 July 2014 of the date by when they intended to file their objection brief). Besides the unresolved psychological integrity credibility issues detailed below, currently being litigated in GMC 2578-14; there were no individual or organisational legal objection briefs filed, by 22 July 2014. Pending authorized referral of submission; late objection briefs may be filed directly to Swiss Federal Council: CC: Acting Clerk; Timothy McVeigh; President Obama co US Navy JAG and President Putin co Kremlin Press Office.

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  7. 11 September 2014 DRAFT Referral to Swiss Federal Council:
    GMC 2473 Applicants 11 September 2014 DRAFT Referral and 03-14 December 2013 Submission Brief of Revision of Geneva Convention: (I) 'Parties to the Conflict' and 'Prisoner of War' Definitions & (II) Annulment or EOP Amendment of Eco/Egologically Illiterate War is Peace (WiP) Treaties; on behalf of Presidents Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin; submitted to Swiss Federal Council; copies to (i) University of Minnesota Human Rights Library; (ii) Int’l Criminal Court (ICC): Prosecutors Office; (iii) Int’l Court of Justice (ICJ) President via Peace Palace Library; (iv) United Nations: Rule of Law Unit: Deputy Secretary-General; (v) International Law Institute (PDF).
    Authorized Referral:
    Officially authorized EoP PoW Geneva Convention Amendments referral to Swiss Federal Council shall occur once (a) EoP Clerks psychological integrity credibility, Iatrogenic Ethno-bio-warfare depopulation Origins of AIDS and Military Psychotronic Information Warfare -- issues currently proceeding in GMC 2578-14: Lara Johnstone v Frode & Talitha Moe -- are resolved; and/or (b) the Russian and American Embassies appoint their respective appointed individual/s to take over the MILED Clerk position; and such officially authorized Clerk/s proceed to file the referral to the Swiss Federal Council.

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  8. Legal Invitation: MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council

    Legally Register your Support for an Ecology of Peace New World Order: Ecology of Peace international law social contract that enables orderly and humane reduction of Earth’s population and consumption:

    The text of the MILINT Earth Day submission to Swiss Federal Council was authorized for publication by GMC 4643 applicants: among others including: US Navy Judge Advocate General: Vice Admiral Nanette Derenzi; Assistant Secretary of the Navy: Energy, Installations and Environment: Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn; ussia President Vladimir Putin; General David Petraeus (Ret); General Ray ODierno; General Stan McChrystal (Ret), General John Mulholland, Timothy McVeigh and Erik Prince.

    If you wish to legally register your support to implement an Ecology of Peace international law social contract that requires all the worlds citizens from all races, ethnicities, religions and cultures to be legally required to breed and consume below ecological carrying capacity limits; respond to this electronic legal invitation as follows:

    »» Read. Agree. Support. [Name, City & Country of Residence] ««

    Which shall be interpreted as:

    Re: Legal Invitation: MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council:
    I have read the documentation.
    I agree with the submission arguments.
    I want to register my written public support.
    [Signed] Full name, City & Country of Residence.

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  9. Please note a copy of all MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council legal invitations sent as of 18 September 2014 shall be filed with the submission documents; in ‘Invitations sent as of 18 Sep 2014’. All submission documents are available at Ecology of Peace Prisoner of War Geneva Amendments submission to Swiss Federal Council.

    Respectfully,

    Lara Johnstone, aka Andrea Muhrrteyn [EoP Oath (PDF)]
    PO Box 5042, George East, 6539, RSA
    GMC 4643-13 & 2578-14 Pro Se Applicant
    MILED [Official Status pending/Resigned] Clerk & Acting Clerk

    * GMC 4643 Lara Johnstone v Brad Blanton Applicants & Observers
    Applicants: Francisco Martin (2); Nanette Derenzi (3); Dennis McGinn (4); Timothy McVeigh (5); Erik Prince (6); Vladimir Putin (7); David Petraeus (8); Ray ODierno (9); Stan McChrystal (10) John Mulholland (11)
    Observers: Judge Jay Bybee: U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit; David Coombs Office; Zbigniew Brzezinski; Major General Dana Pittard; Major General Herbert Raymond McMaster; John W. Whitehead; Donald Rumsfeld; USMC JCS: Dir Joint Force Dev: Lt Gen George Flynn; USMC General Mattis via Dep Comm: Col James Clark: Camp Lejeune Marine Corps Base; US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas co Justice Antonin Scalia co Eugene Scalia

    PS: Please note: This is not a mailing list. It is simply a once off legal invitation. You do not need to ‘unsubscribe’. The Acting clerk will not be sending you another invitation, unless you request one; or respond with (i) a »» Read. Agree. Support. [Name] «« response (as a supporter; and we need more info or to verify any information); or (ii) a question, want to file an objection etc (to answer your question or respond to whatever issue you raise in your response).

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  10. Prior Invitations to Dr. Guy McPherson:

    ________________________________
    Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:10 PM
    To: 'GG: Global Greens: Secretary'; 'EndCiv: Guy McPherson'; 'EndCiv: Guy McPherson'; 'IL: GreenZion: Green Zionist Alliance'; 'IL: GreenZion: Orr Karassin'; 'M-Pop: NatPost: Diane Francis'; 'NNR: MinConflict: Mario Cedron'; 'NNR-S-Conflict: Global Witness'; 'NNR-S-Conflict: David Young'; 'NNR-S-Conflict: Oliver Courtney'
    Cc: 'Timothy D'
    Subject: Invitation to support: Prisoner of Sex & War ShibumiTF MN-737 submission to Swiss Federal Council

    TO: GG: Global Greens: Secretary; EndCiv: AX-EDU: Guy McPherson; EndCiv: Guy McPherson; IL: GreenZion: Green Zionist Alliance; IL: GreenZion: Orr Karassin; M-Pop: NatPost: Diane Francis; NNR: MinConflict: Mario Cedron; NNR-S-Conflict: Global Witness; NNR-S-Conflict: David Young; NNR-S-Conflict: Oliver Courtney
    CC: Timothy McVeigh

    ________________________________
    Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:24 PM
    To: 'Equal Time Radio: Frank Blair'; 'Guests: Steve Kirby'; 'Dr Guy McPherson'; 'Sponsors: NWPVA: Paralyzed Veterans of America: Patrick Carpenter: President'; 'Swiss Fine Food & Ales: Jack: General Manager'; 'NABVETS: Nat Assoc of Black Veterans'; 'UFCW: United Food & Commercial Workers Intnl Union: Patrick J. O'Neil: Executive V.P.'
    Cc: 'Timothy Truthseeker'; 'RNC Volunteer Campaign'; 'RNC ECampaign'
    Subject: Legal Invitation: MILINT Earth Day submission to Swiss Federal Council

    TO: Equal Time Radio: Frank Blair; Guests: Steve Kirby; Dr Guy McPherson; ETR Sponsors: NWPVA: Paralyzed Veterans of America: Patrick Carpenter: President; Swiss Fine Food & Ales: Jack: General Manager; NABVETS: Nat Assoc of Black Veterans; UFCW: United Food & Commercial Workers Intnl Union: Patrick J. O'Neil: Executive V.P.
    CC: Timothy McVeigh; RNC Volunteer Campaign; RNC ECampaign

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  11. ______________________________________
    Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 3:29 AM
    To: 'IVAW: Maggie Martin'; 'IVAW: Matt Howard'; 'IVAW: Joyce Wagner'; 'IVAW: Iram Ali'; 'United for Peace & Justice'; 'Veterans for Peace: Michael McPherson'; 'Virginia Druhe'; 'Shelly Rocket'; 'Casey Stinemetz'
    Cc: 'Timothy McVeigh'
    Subject: Legal Invitation: MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council

    Legal Invitation to support an Ecology of Peace New World Order: Ecology of Peace international law social contract that enables orderly and humane reduction of Earth’s population and consumption.

    TO: IVAW: Maggie Martin (maggiemartin@ivaw.org); IVAW: Matt Howard (mattwhoward@ivaw.org); IVAW: Joyce Wagner (wagnerjm@ivaw.org); IVAW: Iram Ali (iramali@ivaw.org); United for Peace & Justice (ufpj@gmail.com); Veterans for Peace: Michael McPherson (mcphearson@veteransforpeace.org); Virginia Druhe (virginia@veteransforpeace.org); Shelly Rocket (shelly@veteransforpeace.org); Casey Stinemetz (casey@veteransforpeace.org)
    CC: Timothy McVeigh (truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com)

    ====================== end ======================

    copy of links in original, not included above are available at navyjag-humint.co.nr

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  12. Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:20 PM
    To: 'Dr. Guy McPherson'; 'Guy McPherson'; 'AUT: Dr Sebastian Leuzinger'; 'Pacific Media Center'; 'PMC: Director David Robbie'; 'Prof Laumua Tunufa'i via AUT Walter Fraser'; 'Kate Scott'; 'Dr Cristina Parra'
    Cc: 'Timothy McVeigh'
    Subject: RE: Legal Invitation: MILINT Earth Day EoP submission to Swiss Federal Council

    apologies: correction:
    [4th invitation] is an error and should reflect [3rd invitation]

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