Tuesday 29 September 2020

BBC propaganda channel reveals its spots

 I have been looking for the language that would expose how western governments are responding to this.

While NZ media scarcely mentions it (more information vulnerable kiwis need to be protected from) the BBC displays its bias by quoting the Turkish side and misrepresenting the situation.

The only bright spot is the redoubtable Robert Fisk, who has written a lot on this subject.

Armenia and Azerbaijan fight 

over disputed Nagorno-

Karabakh region - BBC News



The BBC, which still sees itself "ruling the waves" only HARD talks people they love to hate. They hate anyone who has good relations with Russia.



From Wikipedia - this is the state of play with a gencide that happened over a hundred years ago.

Currently, only the governments of Turkey and Azerbaijan deny that there was an Armenian genocide, while Pakistan refuses to recognize the state of Armenia.[10][11][12] Many other countries, most controversially the United States until October 2019 (pressured by the Turkish lobby, and, in the past, the Anti-Defamation League),[13][14][15] had deliberately avoided officially recognizing it as a genocide in order not to disturb Turkey–United States relations. In October 29 2019 the United States Congress passed the United States resolution on Armenian Genocide officially recognizing the Armenian Genocide as a genocide.[1][16] The Turkish government has spent millions of dollars on Washington lobbying over the past decade, much of it focused on the Armenian genocide issue,[17] and has in the past threatened politicians from other countries with strong retaliation to prevent them from using the word genocide.[18][19][20] The Turkish Republic has also been accused of attempting to intimidate and silence foreign investigative journalists and genocide scholars.[21][22]

The devolved legislatures of Scotland and Wales have formally recognised the Armenian Genocide. The government of the United Kingdom does not recognize the Armenian Genocide, as it considers that the evidence is not clear enough to retrospectively consider "the terrible events that afflicted the Ottoman Armenian population at the beginning of the last century" to be genocide under the 1948 UN convention. The British government states the "massacres were an appalling tragedy" and condemns them, stating that this was the view of the government during that period.[200] In 2006, an early day motion recognising the Armenian Genocide by the UK Parliament was signed by 182 MPs.[268][269]

Armenian memorial unveiled in Cardiff in 2007

However, in 2007, the position of the British government was that it condemns the massacres, but "neither this Government nor previous British Governments have judged that the evidence is sufficiently unequivocal to persuade us that these events should be categorised as genocide as defined by the 1948 UN Convention on Genocide, a convention which is, in any event, not retrospective in application."[270] In 2009, the lawyer Geoffrey Robertson QC revealed in a disclosure of Foreign Office documents entitled "Was there an Armenian Genocide?",[271] how the British Parliament has routinely been misinformed and misled by ministers who have recited FCO briefs without questioning their accuracy. As summarized by Robertson, "there was no 'evidence' that had ever been looked at and there had never been a 'judgment' at all."[272] A 1999 Foreign Office briefing for ministers said that the recognition of the Armenian Genocide would provide no practical benefit to the UK and goes on to say that "The current line is the only feasible option" owing to "the importance of our relations (political, strategic and commercial) with Turkey". The Foreign Office documents furthermore include advice from 1995 to the then Conservative foreign minister, Douglas Hogg, that he should refuse to attend a memorial service for the victims of the genocide.[273] As of 2015, the United Kingdom does not formally recognise the Ottoman Empire's massacres of Armenians as a "genocide".[274]

James Bryce (1838–1922), 1st Viscount Bryce, was one of the first Britons to bring this issue to public attention.[275][276]


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