David
L. Stern's phone talks before Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 plane crash
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17
July, 2015
Pressbox
(Press Release) -
David L. Stern, a citizen of the USA, working as a CIA agent under
cover in international media, in particular in GlobalPost and BBC, in
the middle of July of 2014 was near Grabovo village of the Donetsk
region of Ukraine where the Boeing Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
(MH17/MAS17) was shot down.
The given transcripts of David L. Stern's phone talks partially clarify the events preceding the air crash on July 17, 2014 in Ukraine.
Audio files were provided by people of the ex-head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) Valentyn Nalyvaichenko after his resignation.
For confirmation there is a phone talk with David Stern attached, the audio file is available on: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=89052498329097996975
June 25, 2014
X (non-identified person): Hello.
David L. Stern: Hello.
X: How is the preparation work going?
David L.Stern: Just as it was planned.
X: Have you met with Ukrainian "warriors"? (laughs)
David L. Stern: (laughs) Not today.
X: I need you to personally control "the complex." It should be at a certain location at certain time. Understand?
David L. Stern: Yes, sure.
X: I want you to personally do this.
David L. Stern: Yes, don't worry.
X: Ok, good luck.
David L. Stern: Good luck.
June 27, 2014
David L. Stern: Hello! I didn't have time to tell you yesterday... It was a right decision to get Poroshenko replace Koval.
X: That was John's decision (presumably John Brannon). We thought it was right.
David L. Stern: I am proud to be in his team.
X: He said we should follow the Saudi model... You know what I mean.
David L. Stern: Yes, sure.
X: Why are you talking about this now?
David L. Stern: I got many questions concerning Buk's movement from the Koval's team. I hope, they don't suspect anything?
X: Of course, no. Thank you for telling me this. It is important there is no leak.
David L.Stern: Don't worry. We completely understand everything.
X: Excellent. Goodbye.
David L.Stern: Bye.
July 1, 2014.
David L. Stern: Hi.
X: Hi.
David L. Stern: I want to ask you something. Just for understanding.
X: Sure. Go ahead!
David L. Stern: Who recommended Heletey to us?
X: Are there any problems with him? Is he...?
David L. Stern: No, no... Everything is fine... I just need to know...
X: One of our people recommended him... Do you need to know his name?
David L. Stern: mmm... Is there a problem?
X: His name is Nalyvaichenko... He asked to discuss this with John... through Kondratyuk.
David L. Stern: I understand. That is all. No more questions. (laughs)
X: (laughs) Great. Remember you should be very careful with "the complex." Time frames are of crucial importance. You can't be early. You can't be late. You've got to be just in time. I don't trust Ukrainians. They are on drugs and drunkards. David L. Stern: Sure, don't worry. No problem.
X: Good luck.
David L. Stern: Good luck.
July 4, 2014
X: Hi. People working with "the complex"... are they freshmen or professionals?
David L. Stern: Say it again. I did not hear, what?
X: Soldiers who work on "the complex"... Buk... Do they know what they are doing?
David L. Stern: We found the best of those available
X: I was a little worrying, that's it. We were planning it for a long time. If there are any faults... any mistakes... people we work with will never forgive us. David L. Stern: Yes, sure. I'm doing my best.
X: Very good. I count on you.
David L.Stern: Goodbye.
July 11, 2014
David L.Stern: Hello.
X: What happened?
David L. Stern: No problems. Everything is fine. But I need to tell you something.
X: I'm listening.
David L. Stern: I am worried, there probably was a leak. Can we change the staff?
X: Do you have exact information? Or is it just your suspicion?
David L. Stern: No, no. It is just ... intuition. (laughs)
X: Ok. I will check everything again. Let's hope your intuition let you down this time. (laughs)
David L. Stern: Thank you. Goodbye.
July 15, 2014
X: Hi.
David L. Stern: Hi.
X: How are you?
David L. Stern: John, I need to tell you something important.
X: I would ask you not to mention our names in the conversation. Have you forgotten it?
David L. Stern: Sorry... I am very irritated and worried.
X: Has anything happened?
David L. Stern: Not yet. But I am sure it may.
X: Listen... There is no reason to worry... You are just tired... We're all tired...
David L. Stern: No! I got absolutely exact information that Russians are hunting me.
X: Where does it come from?
David L. Stern: Stop! Please, don't interrupt me. I personally made sure our Ukrainian colleagues are watching me. And I they might be listening to us now. I can't understand what the reason is... It can be either treachery or...
X: Listen, it is just how the things always are... Let them do their job.
David L.Stern: No, just listen it to the end. I have absolutely exact information that Russians are hunting me. All the more, they have a positive experience in this, if you know what I mean but... I'm sure if something happens, our bosses will give me up, and believe me I, we, personally I will have to get out of this myself. You know it very well how easily they can let us down.
X: Yes...
David L. Stern: So I have my own system that can ensure my safety. For at least our bosses will not forget or abandon me.
X: What are you talking about?
David L. Stern: I have several documents confirming that in Ukraine we are acting not on our own behalf... We are not terrorists... We act at the order of our management.
X: You are mad!
David L. Stern: No, it is very serious. These are not the games we played in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is much more serious. And I don't want to alone hold responsibility for everything that should happen with this object! I don't want to!
X: Wait...
David L. Stern: No, mate. I have already decided everything. I have these documents in several memory sticks and they, as you understand, are in different places. If something goes wrong, Russians get me and I get no support, then the documents will appear in mass media.
X: Listen... Do you understand that I'll have to report on this.
David L. Stern: Yes, that's what I count for...
X: OK... But I would ask you... Not to act thoughtlessly...
David L. Stern: Sure... I have thought everything through... But you should understand me... Ukrainians try to follow every step I make... Russians are hunting me... Our bosses are simply indifferent to the situation. The only thing that matters for them is the successful completion of the operation.
X: I understand... You're tired... You know, I will try to do something... I promise. And you don't make any steps now.
David L. Stern: Sure.
X: Can you tell me where you got these documents from?
David L. Stern: (laughs) You know the answer... Of course, no.
X: Ok... You made me worry. I'll try... I mean, I promise to do what I can for your safety.
David L. Stern: Ok... I have no doubt in you... Alright... Good luck... Talk to you later.
X: Bye... Take care... Talk to you later.
Columnist,
Caleb Gilbert
The given transcripts of David L. Stern's phone talks partially clarify the events preceding the air crash on July 17, 2014 in Ukraine.
Audio files were provided by people of the ex-head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) Valentyn Nalyvaichenko after his resignation.
For confirmation there is a phone talk with David Stern attached, the audio file is available on: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=89052498329097996975
June 25, 2014
X (non-identified person): Hello.
David L. Stern: Hello.
X: How is the preparation work going?
David L.Stern: Just as it was planned.
X: Have you met with Ukrainian "warriors"? (laughs)
David L. Stern: (laughs) Not today.
X: I need you to personally control "the complex." It should be at a certain location at certain time. Understand?
David L. Stern: Yes, sure.
X: I want you to personally do this.
David L. Stern: Yes, don't worry.
X: Ok, good luck.
David L. Stern: Good luck.
June 27, 2014
David L. Stern: Hello! I didn't have time to tell you yesterday... It was a right decision to get Poroshenko replace Koval.
X: That was John's decision (presumably John Brannon). We thought it was right.
David L. Stern: I am proud to be in his team.
X: He said we should follow the Saudi model... You know what I mean.
David L. Stern: Yes, sure.
X: Why are you talking about this now?
David L. Stern: I got many questions concerning Buk's movement from the Koval's team. I hope, they don't suspect anything?
X: Of course, no. Thank you for telling me this. It is important there is no leak.
David L.Stern: Don't worry. We completely understand everything.
X: Excellent. Goodbye.
David L.Stern: Bye.
July 1, 2014.
David L. Stern: Hi.
X: Hi.
David L. Stern: I want to ask you something. Just for understanding.
X: Sure. Go ahead!
David L. Stern: Who recommended Heletey to us?
X: Are there any problems with him? Is he...?
David L. Stern: No, no... Everything is fine... I just need to know...
X: One of our people recommended him... Do you need to know his name?
David L. Stern: mmm... Is there a problem?
X: His name is Nalyvaichenko... He asked to discuss this with John... through Kondratyuk.
David L. Stern: I understand. That is all. No more questions. (laughs)
X: (laughs) Great. Remember you should be very careful with "the complex." Time frames are of crucial importance. You can't be early. You can't be late. You've got to be just in time. I don't trust Ukrainians. They are on drugs and drunkards. David L. Stern: Sure, don't worry. No problem.
X: Good luck.
David L. Stern: Good luck.
July 4, 2014
X: Hi. People working with "the complex"... are they freshmen or professionals?
David L. Stern: Say it again. I did not hear, what?
X: Soldiers who work on "the complex"... Buk... Do they know what they are doing?
David L. Stern: We found the best of those available
X: I was a little worrying, that's it. We were planning it for a long time. If there are any faults... any mistakes... people we work with will never forgive us. David L. Stern: Yes, sure. I'm doing my best.
X: Very good. I count on you.
David L.Stern: Goodbye.
July 11, 2014
David L.Stern: Hello.
X: What happened?
David L. Stern: No problems. Everything is fine. But I need to tell you something.
X: I'm listening.
David L. Stern: I am worried, there probably was a leak. Can we change the staff?
X: Do you have exact information? Or is it just your suspicion?
David L. Stern: No, no. It is just ... intuition. (laughs)
X: Ok. I will check everything again. Let's hope your intuition let you down this time. (laughs)
David L. Stern: Thank you. Goodbye.
July 15, 2014
X: Hi.
David L. Stern: Hi.
X: How are you?
David L. Stern: John, I need to tell you something important.
X: I would ask you not to mention our names in the conversation. Have you forgotten it?
David L. Stern: Sorry... I am very irritated and worried.
X: Has anything happened?
David L. Stern: Not yet. But I am sure it may.
X: Listen... There is no reason to worry... You are just tired... We're all tired...
David L. Stern: No! I got absolutely exact information that Russians are hunting me.
X: Where does it come from?
David L. Stern: Stop! Please, don't interrupt me. I personally made sure our Ukrainian colleagues are watching me. And I they might be listening to us now. I can't understand what the reason is... It can be either treachery or...
X: Listen, it is just how the things always are... Let them do their job.
David L.Stern: No, just listen it to the end. I have absolutely exact information that Russians are hunting me. All the more, they have a positive experience in this, if you know what I mean but... I'm sure if something happens, our bosses will give me up, and believe me I, we, personally I will have to get out of this myself. You know it very well how easily they can let us down.
X: Yes...
David L. Stern: So I have my own system that can ensure my safety. For at least our bosses will not forget or abandon me.
X: What are you talking about?
David L. Stern: I have several documents confirming that in Ukraine we are acting not on our own behalf... We are not terrorists... We act at the order of our management.
X: You are mad!
David L. Stern: No, it is very serious. These are not the games we played in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is much more serious. And I don't want to alone hold responsibility for everything that should happen with this object! I don't want to!
X: Wait...
David L. Stern: No, mate. I have already decided everything. I have these documents in several memory sticks and they, as you understand, are in different places. If something goes wrong, Russians get me and I get no support, then the documents will appear in mass media.
X: Listen... Do you understand that I'll have to report on this.
David L. Stern: Yes, that's what I count for...
X: OK... But I would ask you... Not to act thoughtlessly...
David L. Stern: Sure... I have thought everything through... But you should understand me... Ukrainians try to follow every step I make... Russians are hunting me... Our bosses are simply indifferent to the situation. The only thing that matters for them is the successful completion of the operation.
X: I understand... You're tired... You know, I will try to do something... I promise. And you don't make any steps now.
David L. Stern: Sure.
X: Can you tell me where you got these documents from?
David L. Stern: (laughs) You know the answer... Of course, no.
X: Ok... You made me worry. I'll try... I mean, I promise to do what I can for your safety.
David L. Stern: Ok... I have no doubt in you... Alright... Good luck... Talk to you later.
X: Bye... Take care... Talk to you later.
Columnist,
Caleb Gilbert
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Oleg Tsarev on the current situation in the Donbass and in Ukraine
29 July, 2015
SOURCE. Translated by Carpatho-Russian. Edited by Tatzhit.
From the editor: Ex-MP Oleg Tsarev was the last truly “Pro-Eastern” politician in Ukraine who attempted to act through democratic channels, e.g. running in a presidential election against Poroshenko. After he was severely beaten by a nationalist mob in Kiev, he withdrew his candidacy and called on all men of honor to do the same, saying the election is undemocratic and it is illegal to hold one while there is a civil war unfolding. Soon after, his house was burned down, and Kolomoiski (according to Tsarev’s claims and a phone recording) put a price of $1M on his head.
Oleg Tsarev
From that point on, he joined the supporters of the Constitution and continued to play a prominent role in the DPR/LPR politics, although not being a military man, his influence diminished once open warfare broke out. Here is a rather interesting (if unproven) recent analysis by him.
==============Interviewer: Oleg, let’s begin with Ukraine. You have friends who have stayed there, and you have certain exclusive sources who regularly provide you private information. On that basis, what do you think about the situation with the economy of Ukraine, and what are the strategic prospects for the country in the near future?
Oleg Tsarev: The situation is close to catastrophic. But, in general, this does not bother either the Kiev authorities or their bosses from the USA. Americans are actually interested in Ukraine declaring default. Simply because it will be easier and cheaper to buy up the capital assets, and the decreasing standard of living will make more people willing to join the army and serve for the salaries it pays. The army itself, Americans will support, supplying everything needed, including weapons.Judging by the fact that Victoria Nuland personally traveled to Kiev to ensure a vote in the Verkhovna Rada to introduce changes to the Constitution of Ukraine, and that due to her arrival the special status of the “separate regions of Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts” is included in the primary text of the Constitution, we may infer that in the negotiations between Russia and USA on Iran, they also discussed Ukraine.
Evidently, it was for a good reason that Kerry flew to Moscow on May 12th, and Nuland came there on May 17th. The outlines of the agreements are clear. Russia, the European Union, and now also the USA are forcing Poroshenko to implement the Minsk Accords. In this way, a foundation for political settlement will be laid down. In accordance with the Minsk Accords, the DPR and LPR must re-integrate within Ukraine, and get a special status, similar either to “autonomies” or to subjects in a confederation. The Donbass will have a common economic space with Ukraine, but will preserve the right to make independent decisions on most issues. Kiev’s observance of its obligations to the Donbass will be guaranteed by the armies of the DPR and LPR with all their armament, renamed into “people’s police forces”.
Evidently, in the near future we shall observe the creation of a demilitarized region around Donbass, from which not just heavy artillery but also lightly armed soldiers will be withdrawn. I think that this process will begin as soon as it is tested with the successful example of Shirokino. Clashes and shelling will cease as soon as the soldiers can’t see each other in their rifle sights. The next step will be a general amnesty and lifting the economic blockade of Donbass by Kiev.
The most humiliating thing for the Kiev authorities is that they were not invited to these negotiations conducted by Russia with USA and EU, no one asked their opinion.But with all that, I would not get too hopeful just yet.
The immense numbers of armed paramilitaries consist of radicals, whose life is war and who do not wish to lay down arms. It is also true that the population of Donbass, the majority of them having endured so much at the hands of Kiev during ATO, is not willing to return to Ukraine. From my point of view, the process of reconciling the Donbass with Ukraine can hardly be successful while those who unleashed civil war are still in power. And while people like Poroshenko, Yatseniuk, Turchinov, and Kolomoyskiy are not yet brought to justice for their crimes.
Still unresolved is one of the chief contradictions at the very foundation of the Ukrainian state –a state formed by the Russian and Ukrainian people – that the Russian language is not an official language. Nor it is not possible to call USA a reliable partner. The CIA employees who are controlling the State Security and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not about to return to the USA. No one is about to give actual control of the country back to the people of Ukraine. Hence, of course, we must do everything we can to stop the bloodshed, but at the same time we need to keep the powder dry.
Unfortunately, I think woes and problems will plague my long-suffering homeland for a long time. Not long ago, an acquaintance who is a leader of an NGO in Dnepropetrovsk came to me and told me that they brought him to the Security Service [building], and among many other questions, they asked him questions about me.
The questions were about the period when I was engaged in politics in Dnepropetrovsk. At a meeting there was a man who remained silent and only listened to the answers, but when his phone rang, he began to talk on the phone in pure English. I am convinced that no matter how the conflict in Donbass develops, the Americans will do everything they can to keep Ukraine under their control.
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41664 votes were cast. The results were a knock-out blow for the organizers--a full and crushing victory for Vladimir Putin. Treason!
Let's look at the results:
Putin: 84% (34,905 votes)
Lukashenko: 5% (2032)
Xi Jinping 2% (820)
Zhirinovskiy 2% (708)
Poroshenko 1% (538 votes)
Merkel 1% (430 votes)
Marie Le Pen 1% (426 votes)
Nazarbayev 1% (318 votes)
Obama 1% (244 votes)
Timoshenko 0% (176)
Lyashko 0% (170)
Yatsenyuk 0% (158)
Kolomoysky 0% (150)
Simonenko 0% (130)
Kuchma 0% (86)
Yanukovych 0% (116)
Tigipko 0% (76)
Kravchuk 0% (32)
Yushchenko 0% (32)
Even Zhirinovskiy doubled Poroshenko's score! In spite of the common wisdom which says that if Vladimir Volfovich takes up the Ukrainian question, the nationally conscious will be left in charge of Lvov, and even that will be a lease...All in all, pretty bad news for the embroidered shirt crowd...
From
the Ukrainian publication, http://nedelya-ua.com/
84%
of Ukrainians would entrust Putin with Ukraine
28
July, 2015
By
Dina Simonyan
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
A new information tragedy in Ukraine. It started so innocently: the nationally conscious patriotic website Nedelya.ua organized a survey. The question was: which politician would you entrust with governing your country?
Translated from Russian by J.Hawk
A new information tragedy in Ukraine. It started so innocently: the nationally conscious patriotic website Nedelya.ua organized a survey. The question was: which politician would you entrust with governing your country?
41664 votes were cast. The results were a knock-out blow for the organizers--a full and crushing victory for Vladimir Putin. Treason!
Let's look at the results:
Putin: 84% (34,905 votes)
Lukashenko: 5% (2032)
Xi Jinping 2% (820)
Zhirinovskiy 2% (708)
Poroshenko 1% (538 votes)
Merkel 1% (430 votes)
Marie Le Pen 1% (426 votes)
Nazarbayev 1% (318 votes)
Obama 1% (244 votes)
Timoshenko 0% (176)
Lyashko 0% (170)
Yatsenyuk 0% (158)
Kolomoysky 0% (150)
Simonenko 0% (130)
Kuchma 0% (86)
Yanukovych 0% (116)
Tigipko 0% (76)
Kravchuk 0% (32)
Yushchenko 0% (32)
Even Zhirinovskiy doubled Poroshenko's score! In spite of the common wisdom which says that if Vladimir Volfovich takes up the Ukrainian question, the nationally conscious will be left in charge of Lvov, and even that will be a lease...All in all, pretty bad news for the embroidered shirt crowd...
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