Demystifying MH-17

Truth Exists, Lies are Invented / Malaysia Accuses US and Ukraine for MH17 Shoot-down!

Posted by: Adam Baum

#UkraineCrisis 'An American Disaster',

20 August, 2014

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t lie can live forever, and while the future is far from clear, there is beginning to be

TRUTH FEARS NO QUESTIONS

Truth Exists, Lies are Invented

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Targeting Malaysia indirectly like this is Israel’s way of seeking revenge for the findings of the Russell Tribunal; plus perhaps examine just who some of the passengers were on these 2 planes – surely choosing these 2 flights was not coincidental. Israel is heavily involved in the Ukraine crisis, where it wishes to set up another 4th homeland for Jews.

Malaysia accuses US and EU backed Ukraine regime of MH17 shoot-down

A Thursday article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia’s flagship English-language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last month. Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the full backing of the Malaysian state.

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Malaysian press charges Ukraine government shot down MH 17

Well the Malaysians have spoken out! Ukraine shot down their airliner and murdered

hundreds of people in an attempt to start WW3!

By Alex Lantier

9 August 2014

A Thursday article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia’s flagship English-language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last month. Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the imprimatur of the Malaysian state.

· US images implicate Kiev in MH17 crash

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Systematically Reconstructing the Shoot-Down of the Malaysian Airliner: The Guilt Is Clear and Damning

Only idiots would trust Britain to interpret these black boxes to determine what and who brought down that plane. But, fortunately, the physical evidence lying on the ground at the site in Ukraine was photographed very quickly by locals there and uploaded to the Internet sometimes before any fighters and any governments were able to tamper with anything; and there happened to be one modest-looking item found at the site that tells a remarkably complete and entirely credible and convincing account of how this plane came down.

It tells that the Ukrainian Government itself did this airliner-downing, with bullets, not with shrapnel. You’ll see the evidence laid out before you here; you won’t need to rely upon the British Government to tell you how this event happened. The evidence will tell you that.

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Russian Sanctions Expose West's "Global Disorder"

By: ActivistPost

Tony Cartalucci

Activist Post

In a report by the Sydney Morning Herald titled, "Julie Bishop says 'petulant' Russian sanctions reflect its lack of acceptance for role in MH17 disaster," it claims:

"Foreign Minister Julie Bishop says Russia's "petulant" trade sanctions on Australian food imports is yet another example of Moscow trying to evade responsibility for the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17."

However, Bishop fails to indicate why Russia should or would accept responsibility for downing an aircraft when no evidence whatsoever even suggests such culpability. Canberra, Washington, London, and Brussels are citing dubious YouTube videos, Facebook, and other forms of "social media," while Russia has provided radar and satellite pictures and has repeatedly called for and supported a proper, independent, impartial investigation into the incident...

Obama Continues Psyop Against Russia, Threatens China, in Interview with The Economist

On the eve of Obama’s meeting with African politicians, he gave an interview with obsequious editors and reporters from The Economist. He used it to attack Russia and Putin once again. The objective was clear: To dismiss Russia as weak and irrelevant and so to drive other countries away from it, including China and the EU.

Webmaster's Commentary: It appears that Obama is becoming more and more detached from reality as days go by, which is very worrisome. Whether he is on some kind of min-altering drugs is something we will never know.

Theoretically, this is something from which the 25th Amendment was supposed to protect American citizens; a president who has become completely emotionally or physically unglued can be removed from office.

But who in Congress, and Obama's Executive team, would have the "male attributes" to do this?!?

Unfortunately, the short answer is no one.

It is a pity that the people of Ukraine/Russia do not realise that they share the same enemy as the Palestinians in Gaza, Arab Nation Muslim Nation . Israel and its Zionist Jews wish to take over Ukraine and they have used a political Coup as well as a ‘civil’ War to get what they want. They only Ukrainians they care about are the Jewish Ukrainians, the Oligarchs but not the Ethnic Ukrainians who as we all see now are being terminated by Israeli instigated ‘Ukrainian Government/Army.

In fact the whole DAMN WORLD cannot SEE that it is ISRAEL that is causing death,, destruction, Terrorist attacks and Sectarian/Religious and Tribal/Ethnic Divide right across our God given world.

Ukrainians stand up against junta

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/ukrainians-stand-up-against-junta/

I was forwarded a video clip from a friend in Kharkov, and was compelled to write about it. It gives me goosebumps and brings me to tears. As the evil NATO project to destroy Ukraine and attack Russia begins to implode from its own insane overreach, there is no substitute for the simple eloquence of people defending their lives and those of their families.

The truth is beginning to dawn, as would-be cannon fodder kids throughout Ukraine are burning their military writs, their families blocking roads, young men escaping to the woods and even to Russia. No fascist lie can live forever, and while the future is far from clear, there is beginning to be some hope that the chickens may yet come home to roost in a major way.’

Read more: How Ukrainians stand up against Junta


There is quite a different tone in the Malaysian media..This is from 7 August - by which time the western media had gone quiet on MH17

US Analysts Conclude MH17 Downed By Aircraft

Malaysian Digest,

7 August, 2014

KUALA LUMPUR: Intelligence analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.

In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”.

This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation.

In a statement released by the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, Kiev denied that its fighters were airborne during the time MH17 was shot down. This follows a statement released by the Russian Defence Ministry that its air traffic control had detected Ukrainian Air Force activity in the area on the same day.

They also denied all allegations made by the Russian government and said the country’s core interest was in ensuring an immediate, comprehensive, transparent and unbiased international investigation into the tragedy by establishing a state commission comprising experts from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and Eurocontrol.

“We have evidence that the plane was downed by Russian-backed terrorist with a BUK-M1 SAM system (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reporting name SA-11) which, together with the crew, had been supplied from Russia. This was all confirmed by our intelligence, intercepted telephone conversations of the terrorists and satellite pictures.

“At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have never used any anti-aircraft missiles since the anti-terrorist operations started in early April,” the statement read.

Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes — the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with “flechettes”, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.

Parry’s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.

Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.

Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.

In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: “The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days”.

“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview.

Parry had said that Bociurkiw’s testimony is “as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.

“That’s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,” Parry had said.

Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit.

“You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile.

“The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent — outwardly.”

He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner’s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane.

“It had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko’s main discovery. You can’t have projectiles going in both directions — into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides — unless they are coming at the panel from different directions.

“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.

--New Straits Times

This is from Singapore's Straits Times

Malaysia prosecutors and foreign ministry looking into seeking justice for MH17 victims

The Straits Times (Singapore)

17 August, 2014

TAPAH, PERAK (THE STAR/ASIA NEWS NETWORK): Malaysia's Attorney-General's Chambers and foreign ministry are currently looking at ways to seek legal justice for the families of MH17 victims, defence minister Hishammuddin Hussein said on Sunday.

"The Attorney-General is looking into the matter in depth while Wisma Putra is looking into the international aspect," said Datuk Seri Hishammuddin.

"We will not sit quietly and we will seek justice for those on MH17," he told journalists after opening the annual general meeting of the Tapah division of Umno, the ruling United Malays National Organisation.

"It doesn't matter which court we have to go, be it in Malaysia, Ukraine or at the International Court of Justice," Mr Hishammuddin added.

Flight MH17 of Malaysia Airlines was shot down over Ukraine on July 17 while flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. All 298 people onboard, including 43 Malaysians, perished in the crash.

The West has accused Ukrainian separatists of shooting down the plane using a missile system which the United States believes was supplied by Russia amid months of fighting with Ukrainian government forces. Both Russia and the rebels blame Ukrainian forces for the crash.

Mr Hishammuddin said the priority now was to get the bodies of the deceased safely back to Malaysia and their respective homes. The government had announced that 16 bodies from MH17 will arrive from the Netherlands on Aug 22, as Malaysia observes a national day of mourning.

Mr Hishammuddin also assured families of those on board MH370, another Malaysia Airlines flight which disappeared on March 8 with 239 passengers while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, that search operations for the victims were not forgotten.

"Even with our attention are currently on MH17, the search operations are ongoing. We are working closely with the Chinese and the Australian Governments," he said.

In his speech earlier on Sunday, Mr Hishammuddin urged party members not to be swayed by the opposition in their support towards the ruling Barisan Nasional alliance, which is led by Umno.

He said members must continue to have belief in the party leadership and also towards the government.

"Today's political landscape has changed. It has leaned towards political hatred, demonisation and personal attacks on social media," he said.

"We must have patience, courage and also wisdom," he added.