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Russia
Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar
Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity
21
July, 2014
Ukraine
hasn’t said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane,
notes the Russian Foreign Ministry, as it unveils 10 awkward
questions for Ukraine (and perhaps the US 'snap judgment') to answer
about the MH17 disaster.
However, what is perhaps more concerning for
the hordes of finger-pointers is that:
RUSSIA
HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE
DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST:
IFX
RUSSIA: UKRAINE
MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17:
IFX
RUSSIA
DETECTED UKRAINIAN
FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17
Obviously,
if there is proof that this is so, aside from CIA-created YouTube
clips, these would deal another unpleasant blow to US foreign policy.
The
Russian defense ministry during its press conference which concluded
minutes ago:
Here
is the full clip of the Russian ministry releasing its own forensic
analysis of what happened to flight MH17 (with English translation).
Russia
wants to know why Ukraine moved its BUK missiles systems the day of
the MH17 crash:
RUSSIAN
GENERAL STAFF HAS SPACE IMAGES OF SECTORS OF UKRAINIAN FORCES'
POSITIONS IN SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE, INCLUDING BUK MISSILE LUNCH SITES
8 KILOMETERS FROM LUHANSK - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY – interfax
The
day the Malaysian airliner crashed, the Ukrainian forces deployed an
air defense group of three or four Buk-M1 missile batteries near
Donetsk, Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov, head of the Russian General
Staff's Main Operations Department, told reporters on Monday.
"These
surface-to-air systems are capable of hitting targets at a distance
of up to 35 kilometers at an altitude of 22 kilometers. For what
purpose and against whom were these missile systems deployed? As is
known, the militia has no aviation," he said.
Russia
has the flight paths of the Ukrainian fighters and MH17. Furthermore,
it is asking the same question we asked last Thurday:
RUSSIA
SAYS MH17 DIVERGED 14 KM FROM FLIGHT PATH NEAR DONETSK
And
wants to know why. The image (as seen in the presentation above)
allegedly shows Ukraine fighter jets near MH17:
Here
is a screengrab of a Su-25 fighter jet detected close to MH17 before
crash.
“A
Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s
distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said
the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s
military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a
media conference in Moscow on Monday.
“[We]
would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was
flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at
the same level as a passenger plane,” he
stated.
“The
SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its
specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60
missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km
for sure.”
The
presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video
shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.
And
asks for US proof of their accusations:
RUSSIA
SAYS U.S. SATELLITE FLEW OVER MH17 AT TIME IT WAS DOWNED... which
would provide all the proof needed to show who is responsible -
so why hasn't the US explained this or shown it?
RUSSIA
ASKS U.S. FOR EVIDENCE ROCKET FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
RUSSIA:
NO U.S. PROOF THAT MISSILE FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
DEFENCE
MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO
SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"
And
went on to rebuke all the Twitter photos created by Maidan to 'prove'
the BUKs were moving in Russian hands.
Additionally,
as Russia noted using what appears to be legitimate photographic
evidence (something the west has so far failed to provide in any
capacity) MH17 crashed within the operating zone of the Ukrainian
army’s self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air ‘Buk’
missile systems, the Russian general said.
“We
have space images of certain places where the Ukraine’s air defense
was located in the southeast of the country,” Kartapolov noted.
The
first three shots that were shown by the general are dated July 14.
The images show Buk missile launch systems in about 8km northwest of
the city of Lugansk – a TELAR and two TELs, according to the
military official.
Another
image shows a radar station near Donetsk.
Radar
stations of the air defense in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk
city, on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense
MinistryRadar stations of the air defense in Donetsk Region, 5km
north of Donetsk city, on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian
Defense Ministry
While
the third picture shows the location of the air defense systems near
Donetsk, he explained. In particular, one can clearly see a TELAR
launcher and about 60 military and auxiliary vehicles, tents for
vehicles and other structures, he elaborated.
Buk
missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city,
on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense MinistryBuk
missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city,
on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry
“Images
from this area were also made on July 17. One should notice that the
missile launcher is absent [from the scene]. Image number five shows
the Buk missile system in the morning of the same day in the area of
settlement Zaroschinskoe – 50km south of Donetsk and 8km south of
Shakhtyorsk," the Kartapolov said.
No
Buk missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk
city, on July 17, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense
MinistryNo Buk missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of
Donetsk city, on July 17, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense
Ministry
Buk
missile defense units in Zaroschinskoe, 50km south of Donetsk city
and 8km south of Shakhtyorsk, on July 17, 2014.Photo courtesy of the
Russian Defense MinistryBuk missile defense units in Zaroschinskoe,
50km south of Donetsk city and 8km south of Shakhtyorsk, on July 17,
2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry
The
question that has to be answered is why the missile system appeared
in the area controlled by the local militia forces shortly before the
catastrophe, he stated.
*
* *
Summing
it all up, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, has
10 questions for Ukraine (google
translated)
The
global public expects a speedy and independent investigation into the
causes of the disaster Malaysian aircraft in the airspace of Ukraine.
In
order to conduct an objective investigation of possible leadership of
the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has ased ten
questions to the Ukrainian side.
1. Ukrainian
authorities immediately identified the militia as the perpetrators of
the tragedy. What is the basis of such findings?
2. Could
official Kiev to report all the details of using [BUKs] in a war
zone? Most importantly - why these systems are deployed there, as the
militia no planes?
3.
What are the causes of inactivity of Ukrainian authorities on the
formation of an international commission? When such a committee will
work?
4.
Are the armed forces of Ukraine international experts to present
papers on accounting for missiles, air-to-air and ground-to-air ammo
and anti-aircraft missiles?
5.
Whether these funds objective control on the movement of the
Ukrainian Air Force aircraft on the day of the tragedy brought
international commission?
6. Why
Ukrainian air traffic controllers allowed deviation of the route of
the aircraft to the north side of the "anti-terrorist operation
zone"?
7.
Why was not completely closed to civilian aircraft airspace over the
combat zone, especially because in this area there was no solid field
of radar navigation?
8. Could
official Kiev to comment on reports in the net, ostensibly on behalf
of the Spanish air traffic controllers working in Ukraine, which shot
down over the territory of Ukraine "Boeing" was accompanied
by two Ukrainian military aircraft?
9.
Why Security Service of Ukraine has begun without international
representatives work with recordings of talks with Ukrainian crew
dispatchers "Boeing" and Ukrainian radar data?
10. How
were the lessons from previous similar disasters Russian Tu-154 in
2001 in the Black Sea? Then the leaders of Ukraine until the last
minute denied any involvement of the Armed Forces of the country to
the tragedy until irrefutable evidence showed no guilt official Kiev.
Unfortunately,
there has been no response by the Ukraine side to these questions so
far. We expect that there will be some answers.
*
* *
Needless
to say, this places Ukraine and The US (as main protagonist of
"finger pointer") in an awkward position as finally
someone, somewhere will have to present some actual facts instead of
merely continuing the "emotional appeals" propaganda.
We
expect many of these questions to be answered once the contents of
flight MH17's black box are revealed and/or when Ukraine finally
releases an undoctored version of the Air Traffic control recording
with the doomed flight.
Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash – Moscow
The
Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining
height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev
must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger
airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
Malaysia
MH17 crash: 10 questions Russia wants Ukraine to answer
Some
Western states and Kiev rushed to find Russian involvement in the
MH17 crash having no evidence to back their claims, Russia’s Deputy
Defense Minister told RT. He invited Ukraine to answer 10 questions
to prove their commitment to an impartial probe.
Speaking
to RT, Russia’s Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov has
criticized Western countries for jumping to conclusions just “24
hours after the crash” while there is no evidence.
“They
try to show to the whole world that we are responsible for the crash.
It is very strange that without any evidence my colleagues from
western media would like to find somebody who is responsible for the
crash,” Antonov
said. “It
seems to me that this is part of information warfare which has been
started against the Russian Federation and armed forces.”
Instead
of using the incident as the pretext for groundlessly blaming one of
the sides, the catastrophe over Ukrainian sky should be used as a
possibility to restart cooperation to “prevent
such tragedies in the future.”
“As
for me, I don’t want to use this opportunity to blame anybody. I
would just like to raise few questions for my colleagues from the
armed forces of Ukraine,”
Antonov
said. “I
hope they try to answer the questions, it will be a good opportunity
for us to realize where we are, whether there is a possibility for us
to restart cooperation and to find who is really responsible for the
tragedy.”
“Answers
for these questions could help us find an opportunity to prevent such
tragedies in the future,”the
Deputy Defense Minister said.
TEN QUESTIONS FOR THE UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES
1.
Immediately after the tragedy, the Ukrainian authorities, naturally,
blamed it on the self-defense forces. What are
these accusations based
on?
2.
Can Kiev explain in detail how it uses Buk
missile launchers in
the conflict zone? And why were these systems deployed there
in the first place, seeing as the self-defense forces don’t have
any planes?
3.
Why are the Ukrainian authorities not doing anything to set up
an international
commission?
When will such a commission begin its work?
4.
Would the Ukrainian Armed Forces be willing to let international
investigators see the inventory of their air-to-air and
surface-to-air missiles, including those used in SAM launchers?
5.
Will the international commission have access to tracking data from
reliable sources regarding the movements of Ukrainian warplanes on
the day of the tragedy?
6.
Why did Ukrainian air traffic controllers allow the plane to deviate
from the regular route to
the north, towards “the
anti-terrorist operation zone”?
7.
Why was airspace over the warzone not closed
for civilian flights,
especially since the area was not entirely covered by radar
navigation systems?
8.
How can official Kiev comment on reports in the social media,
allegedly by a Spanish air traffic controller who works in Ukraine,
that there were two Ukrainian military planes flying alongside the
Boeing 777 over Ukrainian territory?
9.
Why did Ukraine’s Security Service start working with the
recordings of communications between Ukrainian air traffic
controllers and the Boeing crew and with the data storage systems
from Ukrainian radars without waiting for international
investigators?
10.
What lessons has Ukraine learned from a similar
incident in
2001, when a Russian Tu-154 crashed into the Black Sea? Back then,
the Ukrainian authorities denied any involvement on the part of
Ukraine’s Armed Forces until irrefutable evidence proved official
Kiev to be guilty.
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