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Sunday, 20 April 2014

Sorting out the facts

On Persistent Jet Contrails ("chemtrails")



I received an email from a friend of mine today. He's the sort of guy that if it's a conspiracy theory it's alright - if it's not don't bother.

I 've seen this on the Web before but haven't bothered to delve into it. But I needed a distraction from my sombre mood so decided to give it 17 minutes of my time.

It came through beforeitsnews with the headline  - 

LeakerSpeaks Out At United Nations and You Wont Believe What She Said!!! Must See Video!  

and stated:

"By now everyone has witnessed streaks of white trailing across the sky, stretching from horizon to horizon, ultimately turning the skies into a murky haze. We can no longer ignore the fact that our skies are being heavily polluted with aluminum, barium, lead, arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium, and silver. All of which attribute to a host of health problems including: neurological effects, heart damage, eyesight issues, reproduction failures, immune system damage, gastrointestinal disorders, damaged kidney, damaged liver, hormonal problems, and more.

"The truth is the government is spraying deadly chemtrails in hopes of population reduction. Furthermore they have been known to use chemtrails as biological testing agents on the populace; all while claiming they are nothing more than mere vapor.

"We’ll now we have 100% undeniable evidence that chemtrails exist. ...."


Here is the video - 




I could see immediately that there was more to this the video and the "100% undeniable evidence"

It took me approximately 5 minutes to discover why.

The implication was that we have evidence from within the world government (after all it is a UN conference) that chemtrails are real and they are aimed at population reduction (proof - this is a UN conference)


First i asked myself who IS this Rosalind Peterson. Surely she must be talking from within the world government?

What was the nature of the gathering that she spoke to?

Rosalind Peterson, it turns out, is part of the Agriculture Defense Coalition, which "was formed in 2006, to protect agricultural from a wide variety of experimental weather and atmospheric testing programs"

In other words she is an activist, or at least, an advocate.

She does, however have good credentials:

In 1995, Rosalind, now retired, became a certified California United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), Farm Service Agency Agriculture Crop Loss Adjustor.  She worked in more than ten counties throughout California. Many crop losses throughout the State can be attributed to weather related causes.  She worked for five years for the Mendocino County Department of Agriculture as an Agriculture Technologist before being hired by the USDA Farm Service Agency in California.

Rosalind has a BA degree from Sonoma State University in Environmental Studies & Planning (1991 ENSP), with emphasis on solar power, photosynthesis, agriculture, crop production, and the efficient use of energy in the future. Ms. Peterson has won several awards and recognition for her extensive efforts to protect drinking water supplies in Martinez, California, from toxic chemical contamination. She also writes articles for NewsWithViews.com on many subjects including protection of the environment from ongoing, unregulated, atmospheric geoengineering experiments and weather modification programs. 

And what is this UN meeting that she is addressing as a guest speaker?

One 's suspicions might be aroused when one discovers that there is no reference to this on the internet.  The evidence has been removed (sic)!  

Of course there could be a more benign reason for this.  The meeting took place 7 years ago and if you look it is evident that she is not talking to high-powered members of the NWG (just have a look at the audience).

I'm sure (especially if the meeting took place in New York) that there are many meetings that are UN- sponsored.

Finally what is she saying?

Put at its most basic she is saying that there are private and government-sponsored programs to modify the weather using chemicals that are polluting the land with mixtures of cadmium, aluminium and ... - also that these programs are not subject to public scrutiny.

Nothing that she says comes anywhere close to the huge claims of the conspiracy community and their claims of a massive program designed to change the global climate to either mitigate or create warming (depending on who you are talking to) as part of a devilish plot to reduce the world's population.

In fact in another video that I found (admittedly purporting to "debunk" the whole theory) where she qualifies her findings and admits she doesn't have "direct proof that the jets are releasing anything but jet fuel emissions", but that she does have evidence of emissions of aluminium, barium etc..

She is in fact asking for a greater level of proof before taking this to court.





What she is saying, in short is well-supported by evidence and is verified. She stops well-short of some of the more lunatic claims that are made by people who generally don't have well-trained minds or are too intellectually- lazy to seek verifiable proof for their claims.

An article of her's is available HERE

I have little trouble in believing what Rosalind Peterson is saying and accepting that there is, indeed a program of spraying that is polluting farmlands, contributing to the die-off of trees and making people ill.

As one former friend said to me "all you need to do is look up at the sky" to see that there is is a phenomenon of persistent jet contrails (or 'chemtrails', if you prefer).

But it is drawing an extremely long bow to say this proves claims of "population reduction" "Agenda-21" or that weather modifications is causing climate change, much less that climate change (which has far more solid scientific evidence behind it than 'chemtrails') is s 'hoax'

Generally what I have found with most conspiracy theories that an intellectually lazy and dishonest method is use where there is a jump from a premise which is provable or at least rational to some conclusion that has no rational (or any other) link with the initial premise.  This is usually linked to another claim that was "proven" in a similar manner.

This is both a rejection of science itself as well as with methods of scientific inquiry.

Having listened to the arguments, regarding chemtrails as well as claims about the UN, Agenda- 21, the 'climate change hoax' have I ever found even a skerrick of evidence that stands up to scrutiny.

And now, addressing some of my friends, that does not mean that we should automatically dismiss evidence for the existance of 'chemtrails'

There is no one cause for anything (such as tree die-off).

Pollution caused by chemicals sprayed from airplanes might just have to be added to the long list of factors that are, along with abrupt climate change that are leading to the probable near-term extinction of a species that has had its time  along with (regrettably) most of the rest of God's creation.

5 comments:

  1. beforeitsnews is one of the worst rags online. 90%+ of the crap they publish is simply connedspiracy crap.

    That was your first clue - conspiracy websites are all full of shit. They fabricate conjecture and make endless straw arguments in a pathetic attempt to support their claims and create fear and paranoia.

    I'd rather stick to the facts.

    "The truth is the government is spraying deadly chemtrails in hopes of population reduction."

    Absolute bullshit. This type of claim (secret population reduction through nefarious means) is always made and never without any proof or evidence. If this were true, then we'd see millions dead by now. Lives shortened. Which we are not seeing.

    "Chemtrails" exist. There is physical proof. But it is not for population reduction. It is for weather / climate modification. Suspended aerosols are the ONLY thing now keeping the planet from sudden (and irreversible) warming. 2C additional warming would occur in just a few days if all the aerosols were washed out of the air.

    The chemical composition is true too. But the "population reduction" is just more connedspiracy bullshit shoveled by Wigginton and many, many others (nearly all refuse to acknowledge climate change and are denialists, so they dream up some other "reason" to justify their stupid theories).

    I advise everyone - do not waste any more of your life "believing" in connedspiracy theories. It's not a conspiracy if it is true - if there is factual and physical evidence and no conjecture is being created. But it is connedspiracy theory if the claims are unsubstantiated.

    Many many websites are making huge profits from utter fools who are convinced of this or that. Advertisers and sellers target these places selling billions of dollars worth of junk to these idiots. The real fool is those who do not seek out the facts and allow themselves to support these websites.

    Also be cautious about the supposed "consensus" these website appear to have. It is NOT true. The comments are all moderated. Comments that do not support the articles or authors or interject actual facts, investigations and more are simply deleted (Alex Jones website infowars, prison planet, etc., is one of the worst, but so is beforeitsnews and many, many others).

    These stupid fools are simply talking to themselves and it creates the false illusion that there is consensus and support.

    Life is too short and too valuable to fall for utter nonsense. It's a sign of societal decay when so many will waste so much time and accomplish exactly nothing at all. Personally, I have found many better things to do with my life and time and support.

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  2. Thanks SA, you saved me a lot of typing :-)

    I will accept that some planes may be spraying something some of the time. Secret geoengineering experiments maybe? Verification needed.

    I have long pondered why I never saw "chemtrails" in my youth years ago, and I commonly see them now. It is known fact that climate change has gifted us with a new recipe for the composition of the atmosphere including a greater level of water vapor.

    Run water through a jet engine and what do you get? Steam! Will the wonders never cease!
    I am guessing that in most cases, "chemtrails are produced by jets flying on particularly humid (at 35,000 feet) days.

    Perhaps someone with more spare time than I have can investigate this.

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  3. Addendum to comment #2

    For the die-hard conspiracy theorists, try this...

    "Chemtrails" are actually a visible manifestation of climate change which everyone everywhere can easily see. This is really bad news for Globalcorp and the (insert your favorite bad guys here).

    The CIA or (insert your favorite covert operator here) has created a network of operatives propagating (kindly implausible) stories to the public amid much hysteria and flim flam. Now any member of the public inquiring about "chemtrails becomes the subject of ridicule among their peers. Problem solved!

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  4. I am no youngster grew up near an air force base. I recall seeing contrails since I was a little girl. They always caught my eye because seeing them would cause me to imagine where the people in that plane might be off to, or cause a twinge of fear that this might be it...were those B52s off to drop the bomb somewhere.
    Granted there are more contrails now than when I was young, but there is much more air traffic today than there was in the 60s.
    I tried to sort through this chemtrail stuff online after moving out into hippie land and hearing people talk seriously about this as if it was real...people who I presumed were credible.
    I never could get through the material because it was nothing more than a long list of one non sequitur after the other--it was so outrageously ridiculous my head would start to spin and I had to stop.
    As for this Rosalind Peterson and her credentials and credibility. Education and even experience means nada more often today than we like to think. The basic fact is that this woman fails in the basic principle of the scientific method--correlation between two/three/a million events can never be construed as having a cause and effect relationship. To make such a determination requires controlled study. That's also basic statistics 101...and failure to acknowledge that shows one does not have a good mastery of the scientific method.
    As for chemtrails...its very clear we have hit the saturation point for the atmosphere. I first flew at the age of 15 and clearly remember noticing the yellow/brown haze at a very specific altitude over population centers. These days, the last 15 years or so, I've noticed this same haze at the same altitude but now extends all the way to remote areas like Alaska and Northern Minnesota and is just darker over areas of mud air like LA and Tokyo. I am sure all the stuff in the air has created a host of intriguing photochemical reactions and we will learn bit by bit the pandora's box we've created over our heads....but as for some master iluminati plot. Well, the fact on chemtrails is rather simple--outrageous claims required Proof not conjecture to be taken seriously. And Occam's Razor should be the prevailing model until proven otherwise.

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    1. WOW ... rational monkeys banging on keyboards - what a concept!

      BTW, We ARE ALL going to DIE ! YEAH !!

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