Tuesday, 30 December 2014

Questions about AirAsia QZ 8501

When I first heard this news I thought it was just too much of a coincidence for THREE Malaysian planes to be brought down within one year. Then the connection with the weather and pilot error (the ‘coffin corner’) was made to me.


I got to thinking – is the rational, purely physical explanation incompatible with other explantions – such as a plane being hacked and brought down.
What better way to do this than to make a plane stall in high turbulanc? I don’t know if the Airbus can be hijacked in this way – but as always there are questions that need to be answered.
In my mind there is really no such thing as ‘co-incidence’ - really all that means is that there are causal connections that are not evident to the rational mind. The usual explanation is, rather than remaining open-minded and living with the question, is to go into immediate denial.
We all know about this!

So here are some of the strange revelations and unanswered questions when it comes to QZ 8501. In the meantime, it seems that, like MH370, it has sunk into the sea and who knows if the black box will ever be recovered.

Mysterious Chinese blogger sparks online frenzy after 'predicting' that 'black hand' was going to bring down AirAsia jet THIRTEEN days before one vanished 

  • Blogger warned on Dec 15 that 'AirAsia would be targeted by black hand'
  • Refers to a shadowy group he claims also sabotaged MH17 and MH370
  • Peppered internet with 39 posts which have been viewed by 650k users 
  • Some speculate that he could be Chinese intelligence official or a hacker 
  • Sceptics say posts were likely edited after AirAsia 8051 went missing 

29 October, 2014

A mysterious Chinese blogger has provoked a storm of speculation online over claims he predicted the disappearance of an AirAsia flight thirteen days before one vanished.

In a series of posts which have gone viral, the man appears to warn that the airline would be targeted by a shadowy group he calls the 'Black Hand' which he claims brought down Malaysian Airlines flights MH17 and MH370 earlier this year.
An AirAsia flight went missing yesterday with 162 people on board after losing contact en route from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore in the third crisis for a Malaysian carrier this year.

Since its disappearance, social media users have reacted with astonishment at the apparent prediction, while others claim the posts were probably just edited afterwards to make it look authentic.

A Chinese blogger has provoked a storm of speculation online over claims he predicted the disappearance of an AirAsia flight two weeks before one of its Airbus A320s (like the one above) vanished yesterday

A Chinese blogger has provoked a storm of speculation online over claims he predicted the disappearance of an AirAsia flight two weeks before one of its Airbus A320s (like the one above) vanished yesterday

The apparent predictions have gone viral on social media and discussion forums such as Reddit (above), with some users expressing astonishment at the forewarning and others claiming it could be a hoax


The apparent predictions have gone viral on social media and discussion forums such as Reddit (above), with some users expressing astonishment at the forewarning and others claiming it could be a hoax

In one comment on December 15, which has been loosely translated by a Reddit member, the blogger apparently warns: 'Black hand has hijacked and shot down MH370 and MH17.

'This has pretty much killed the sixth largest airline: Malaysian airline.

'Now the black hand are targeting AirAsia to ruin this airline cause (sic) it too belong to Malaysia.

'Given how powerful the black hand are I suggest that all Chinese thinking about travelling to avoid AirAisa, so that you don't disappear like those on MH370.'

Black Hand is a term believed to be a metaphor for a covert organisation or a number of underground groups.

One Reddit user suggests the translation should read 'International big black hand' which they say is more of a reference to a 'despicable international bully'.
No Chinese nationals were on Flight 8501 when it disappeared.

The blogger reportedly peppered social media with a total of 39 posts on the subject which have been viewed by more than 650,000 people.


Mystery: The flight went missing from radar at 6.18am local time - six minutes after last communication with air traffic control - while travelling from Indonesia to Singapore with 162 people on board. Search planes spotted objects and two oily patches in the search area on Monday afternoon
Mystery: The flight went missing from radar at 6.18am local time - six minutes after last communication with air traffic control - while travelling from Indonesia to Singapore with 162 people on board. Search planes spotted objects and two oily patches in the search area on Monday afternoon

An Indonesia Navy search and rescue crew looks for AirAsia QZ 8501 on a Maritime Patrol Navy Aircraft above Bangka-Belitung Islands in the Java Sea
An Indonesia Navy search and rescue crew looks for AirAsia QZ 8501 on a Maritime Patrol Navy Aircraft above Bangka-Belitung Islands in the Java Sea

When asked how he could make such a prediction - with one user calling him a 'conspiracy nut' - he reportedly replied: 'All you civilians get away (from the airline).

'You can still hide, all those that see the post can still save themselves.'

Other reports suggested the blogger repeated his warning on December 16 and 17, adding: 'This is a major event in human life, we have to pay attention.'

Despite facing continued accusations of being 'crazy', he relays a further message to 'be suspicious of the US,' writes one Reddit user who says he got a friend to translate the posts.

The blogger later claims to have persuaded some people to follow his warning.
But after December 17, there was no more activity on his account.

Since the disappearance of Flight 8051, many have reacted with astonishment at the apparent prediction, with speculation rife that he was a Chinese intelligence official or a hacker who had obtained information from the group allegedly responsible.


Inconsolable: Family members of passengers on board missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 cry at a waiting area in Juanda International Airport as they wait for news of the search and rescue operation
Inconsolable: Family members of passengers on board missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 cry at a waiting area in Juanda International Airport as they wait for news of the search and rescue operation

Family members of people on Air Asia flight QZ8501 pray together at Juanda International Airport
Family members of people on Air Asia flight QZ8501 pray together at Juanda International Airport

Reddit user lolrus_bukkit wrote: There is an ongoing conspiracy in Chinese forums that this guy is in Chinese intelligence or a hacker that got sensitive information trying to save as many people he could without making a big scene (guess he failed the second part).'

Aviation mysteries like this often spark conspiracy theories as happened when MH370 disappeared over the Indian Ocean in March last year, with explanations ranging from the airliner being shot down to being abducted by aliens.

Sceptics also argue that the original posts may have been edited with information about the AirAsia flight after it vanished to make it appear like a prediction.
The Chinese version of the Epoch Times suggested the blogger called himself the 'Landlord' although some forum users claim this was a mistranslation. 

Dozens of planes and ships searching Indonesian waters for a missing AirAsia plane focused Monday on a patch of oil for possible clues as a senior official warned the aircraft was likely 'at the bottom of the sea'.

Australia, Singapore and Malaysia joined the Indonesia-led search as anguished relatives awaited news of their loved ones more than a day after Flight QZ8501 disappeared. 

Indonesian Air Force spokesman Hadi Tjahjanto told AFP the search was now concentrated on an oil patch spotted off Belitung island, across from Kalimantan on Borneo island.

'We are making sure whether it was avtur (aviation fuel) from the AirAsia plane or from a vessel because that location is a shipping line,' he said.

As the second day's search ended at dusk, National Search and Rescue Agency chief Bambang Soelistyo said an Indonesian corvette was on its way to collect an oil sample, with an announcement expected tomorrow.

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And one more factor...

AirAsia confirms order of 55 Airbus A330Neos for $15bn




15 December, 2013,
Malaysian low-cost carrier AirAsia X confirmed Monday its order of 55 long-haul A330neo passenger planes from Airbus at a list price of $15 billion, in what is the biggest single order for the line of aircraft.
Since signing an agreement to purchase 50 of the new-generation A330s in July, AirAsia X has added five more planes to its order, the group said in a statement.
Airbus will begin delivering the fleet in 2018, AirAsia X said.
The Malaysian carrier is now Airbus's biggest customer for the A330 family of aircraft, having already ordered 91 of them to date.
"This latest deal with Airbus will enable AirAsia X to consolidate its growth rate in 2015-2017 before ramping up deliveries from 2018 onwards," said Tony Fernandes, co-founder and director of the company.
"The A330 has proven itself to be exactly the right aircraft for our business model, combining low operating costs, long-range flying capability and high levels of comfort."
The A330neo is an updated version of Airbus's wide-body medium-haul jet with fuel-saving engines.
AirAsia X is the long-haul and low-cost affiliate of AirAsia, which was a failing carrier in 2001 when Fernandes acquired it.
The former record industry executive quickly turned the airline around with his no-frills, low-fare formula.
Since then, it has recorded spectacular success and aggressive growth at the expense of national flag carrier Malaysia Airlines.


This seems to me from a conspiracy theory/esoterica website based in Belgium

MISSING AIRASIA FLIGHT - 
SURABAYA TO SINGAPORE

29 December, 2014,



Police General Unggung Cahyono (above) was, until September 2014, the boss of the police in Surabaya.

The Force Commander of the Military Sea Traffic for Surabaya is Col Budi Susanto (centre)

The Ari Cahyono and Chandra Susanto families were booked on flight QZ 8501, but missed the flight.

Two Families Escape Disaster By Missing Doomed AirAsia flight.



The US Deputy Chief of Mission Kristen F. Bauer, the US Consul General Joaquin F. Monserrate and the US Military Attaché were in Surabaya on October 7, 2014.



The AirAsia boss Tony Fernandes dumped 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, the organization that provides travel insurance for AirAsia passengers, just days before the disappearance of Flight QZ8501.

On December 26, the Malaysian Insider reported that Fernandes, the founder of Tune Group Sdn Bhd which owns AirAsia, had sold a total of 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd, with 850,000 shares being dumped on December 22, and the other 94,800 being sold the day after.

The AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes Dumped Shares Days Before Flight Disappeared .

In the fortnight before AirAsia Flight QZ8501 went missing, a mysterious user of the Chinese social media network Weibo, in dozens of posts, warned Chinese nationals not to use AirAsia.

He warned: "Do not become another victim of MH370".

He reported that AirAsia was about to be targeted by 'powerful' forces which he referred to as the 'black hand'. 

Did Mysterious Chinese Blogger Predict Disappearance of AirAsia Flight....



AirAsia flight QZ8501 disappeared during a flight from Surabaya to Singapore.

It disappeared off ADS-B tracking just south of the small island of Belitung.

AirAsia is headquartered in Malaysia.

A reported passenger manifest shows a total of 26 passengers who were scheduled to be aboard but are listed as no-shows.

Huffington Post

There was no distress call.



A relative of someone on the plane reportedly received a message via Blackberry Messenger stating that the plane had landed safely on Belitung.


Indonesian Ministry of Transportation spokesman JA Barata said he would follow this up.

Kemenhub Cari Kepastian Info BBM Pesawat Mendarat di ... - Translate this page

Detik.com quoted National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) Jakarta chief Sutrisno as saying that the agency’s radar did not detect the flight’s Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT).

Third Malaysia Plane Crash in 2014


The US military in Indonesia.

"Curiously, as in the cases of the previous missing or downed airliners, Flight 370 and Flight 17, there is a British/Australian/Dutch connection to this island, Belitung.

Did AirAsia flight QZ8501 Land at Belitung Island ....

"Belitung is a source of tin, clay, iron ore and silica sands. The Dutch mining company NV Billiton Maatschappij derives its name from the island’s name.

"Billiton merged with BHP in 2001 to form the largest diversified resources company, BHP Billiton...

"In the case of Flight 370, the flight was probably shot down by accident in the South China Sea during a war-games operation featuring participants from many nations including Australia and the United States.

"The search was diverted from that area, an area a witness claimed to have seen a passenger plane on fire in the sky, by military reports from a base operating in Malaysia run by the Australians and the Brits.

"It was diverted off the coast of Australia so they could essentially run the wild goose chase. It’s important to note the general population of that area are wary of U.S. and British military involvement as it is and that accidental downing of a commercial airliner would certainly cause a great deal of backlash for our colonial project over there.

"Of course, the TPP is also something to consider.

"In the case of Flight 17, the downing of that plane centered around the breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine.

"It also just happened to take place right in the middle of a shale gas field being developed by Royal Dutch Shell. They had invested some 10 billion dollars in securing the rights to destroy that ecosystem and the rebellion in the east threatened to scrub their plans.

"Here we are now and it just so happens AirAsia flight QZ8501 may in fact have landed or been forced to land at an airstrip essentially controlled by the Brits, the Dutch and the Aussies."

Did AirAsia flight QZ8501 Land at Belitung Island ....


Finally, within hours of the disappearance another AirAsia plane had to make an emergency landing - and then there was this - 

Las Vegas-bound Virgin Atlantic flight VS43 makes emergency landing at Gatwick - as it happened



Someone's hypothesis (from Twitter)

"You've been told over and over it's an aluminum problem the airlines are hiding. it's industry wide parts on the planes go bad and are replaced with cheaper unstable versions made of sub standard aluminum. if this recall went public, it would ground every airplane in the world and they would lose too much money so they deal with the plane crashes instead”

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