Monday 7 May 2012

Russia's Threat of Pre-emptive Strike on NATO


Mike Ruppert's comments have as much to say as the article':

-- This is serious talk, but I take it rather as a sign of overall deterioration in U.S. strategic positions around the world. What is difficult to fathom is why the hugely expensive missile defense shield is important or even necessary. This is not the late 1980s when the U.S. could outspend the Soviet Union after having driven oil down to $18 a barrel, thus wiping out Soviet foreign exchange and bankrupting the USSR.  It's more the other way around now. 

A U.S./Israeli attack on Iran has been prevented. But the human race's nuclear death wish has not been exorcised. We cannot rest on our laurels and finding sense in this is -- as the writer says clearly -- out of reach. -- MCR

Russia Threatens Pre-Emptive Strike On NATO Missile Shield

An opinion piece


3 May, 2012

MOSCOW -- Russia's top military officer has threatened to carry out a pre-emptive strike on U.S.-led NATO missile defense facilities in Eastern Europe if Washington goes ahead with its controversial plan to build a missile shield.

President Dmitry Medvedev said last year that Russia will retaliate militarily if it does not reach an agreement with the United States and NATO on the missile defense system.

Chief of General Staff Nikolai Makarov went even further Thursday. "A decision to use destructive force pre-emptively will be taken if the situation worsens," he said at an international conference attended by senior U.S. and NATO officials.

Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov also warned on Thursday that talks between Moscow and Washington on the topic are "close to a dead end."



Maybe there's a translation problem here.. "A decision to use destructive force pre-emptively will be taken" can mean two things, either that they have decided already and that's the decision "that will be taken" or he's saying at that point, if NATO continues the missile shield, they will decide IF to strike.

Anyhow.. the Russians got us by the cajones..

Just as I was knocking Mitt Romney for Cold War talk (though maybe it's his fault, did he spook them), now Russians threaten PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE. Nooooooo Vlad you can't do that. You can't say those words "pre-emptive strike." That is incredibly belligerent and irresponsible.

Russia is threatening attack on NATO, that is what they are saying.

My recommended course of action: fine, take the missiles out. We have no choice, the missiles aren't worth war. BUT.. the US should do a conventional buildup instead. Bases alone aren't a threat, but they have a point with the missiles. If the Russians don't like the new conventional forces we go with instead of missiles, then too bad it's on -- another Cold War put them on the sh*t list -- oppose Russia on EVERYTHING, trade issues, diplomacy, the whole 9 yards.

The whole thing is ludicrous. WE share a space station for pete's sake. What are they going to do, launch an attack on NATO then our astronauts are marooned in space? Would our guys up there be detained within the space station? They're scientists they're not going to fight each other but the next Soyuz launch would mean arrest and detainment after they take our astronauts back to Russia. Obviously with a war on we'd have bigger problems to deal with down here on Earth.

A Russian strike on NATO means war with Russia. We can only hope both sides can somehow agree to keep it conventional.

(p.s. one caveat with my advice.. for some reason this missile shield is very important to NATO.. if there is reason to be worried that Russia doesn't have control over its nukes, or is losing control or could lose control, then that's a tough call -- we have to defend ourselves despite Russian threat of pre-emptive strikes.. in a perfect world it would sure be nice if NATO and Russia could cooperate to ensure both sides feel safe from an errant nuke launch.. a full scale Russian nuclear strike would mean the permanent end of our nation, and most of our lives the folks on this forum, this has always been the single greatest threat the US has ever had -- nuke exchange with Russia.)

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